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(Or Linus could pull either the folio or >>> pageset branch, and make this proposal obsolete, which would be >>> great. :-) >> >> This is a technical rather than process issue isn't it? You don't have >> enough technical people at the Maintainer summit to help meaningfully. >> The ideal location, of course, was LSF/MM which is now not happening. >> >> However, we did offer the Plumbers BBB infrastructure to willy for a MM >> gathering which could be expanded to include this. > > Well, that's why I was suggesting doing this as a LPC BOF, and using > an LPC BOF session on Friday --- I'm very much aware we don't have the > right tehcnical people at the Maintainer Summit. > > It's not clear we will have enough MM folks at the LPC, and I agree > LSF/MM would be a better venue --- but as you say, it's not happening. > We could also use the BBB infrastructure after the LPC as well, if we > can't get everyone lined up and available on short notice. There are > a lot of different possibilities; I'm for anything where all of the > stakeholders agree will work, so we can make forward progress. I think the two different questions are: * What work is left for merging folios? * What process should we use to make the overall development of folio sized changes more predictable and rewarding for everyone involved? -chris