Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964895AbWLMCSl (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:18:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964898AbWLMCSl (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:18:41 -0500 Received: from pat.uio.no ([129.240.10.15]:50729 "EHLO pat.uio.no" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964895AbWLMCSk (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:18:40 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 1842 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:18:40 EST Subject: Re: Status of buffered write path (deadlock fixes) From: Trond Myklebust To: Nick Piggin Cc: Mark Fasheh , Linux Memory Management , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel , OGAWA Hirofumi , Andrew Morton In-Reply-To: <457F4EEE.9000601@yahoo.com.au> References: <45751712.80301@yahoo.com.au> <20061207195518.GG4497@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <4578DBCA.30604@yahoo.com.au> <20061208234852.GI4497@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <457D20AE.6040107@yahoo.com.au> <457D7EBA.7070005@yahoo.com.au> <20061212223109.GG6831@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <457F4EEE.9000601@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:47:38 -0500 Message-Id: <1165974458.5695.17.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-3.647, required 12, autolearn=disabled, AWL 1.22, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0.14, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL -5.00) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1239 Lines: 28 On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:53 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > Not silly -- I guess that is the main sticking point. Luckily *most* > !uptodate pages will be ones that we have newly allocated so will > not be in pagecache yet. > > If it is in pagecache, we could do one of a number of things: either > remove it or try to bring it uptodate ourselves. I'm not yet sure if > either of these actions will cause other problems, though :P > > If both of those are really going to cause problems, then we could > solve this in a more brute force way (assuming that !uptodate, locked > pages, in pagecache at this point are very rare -- AFAIKS these will > only be caused by IO errors?). We could allocate another, temporary > page and copy the contents into there first, then into the target > page after the prepare_write. We are NOT going to mandate read-modify-write behaviour on prepare_write()/commit_write(). That would be a completely unnecessary slowdown for write-only workloads on NFS. Trond - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/