Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932480AbWLMOQM (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:16:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932509AbWLMOQM (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:16:12 -0500 Received: from [212.33.161.160] ([212.33.161.160]:33016 "EHLO raad.intranet" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932480AbWLMOQL (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:16:11 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 342 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:16:09 EST From: Al Boldi To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Postgrey experiment at VGER Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:11:28 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612131711.28292.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1362 Lines: 36 Trond Myklebust wrote: > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:25 +0200, Dumitru Ciobarcianu wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 01:50 +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote: > > > I do already see spammers smart enough to retry addresses from > > > the zombie machine, but that share is now below 10% of all emails. > > > My prediction for next 200 days is that most spammers get the clue, > > > but it gives us perhaps 3 months of less leaked junk. Great! > > IMHO this is only an step in an "arms race". > > What you will do in three months, remove this check because it will > > prove useless since the spammers will also retry ? If yes, why install > > it in the first place ? > > Why ever do anything? You're going to die eventually anyway... Right! The problem here is that it may do more harm than good. May I suggest a smarter way to filter these spammers, by just whitelisting email addresses of valid posters, after sending a confirmation for the first post. Now if these spammers get smart, and start using personal email addresses, I would certainly expect some real action by abused email address owners. Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/