Received: by 2002:a05:6a11:4021:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id ky33csp2083716pxb; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:35:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwjEK0daWjxUmMy9sykW/Pycdc82kJ+SBjKc8U50Z44rccfk7+KVer4iGvdksVGvBGUta7+ X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c5d9:: with SMTP id h25mr10977169eds.159.1631867699988; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:34:59 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1631867699; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=mQ5kajo/N6v8hdZKedHx3RETqBKLgHrOIx9F9OvlQnjjHhyIYw0i+ixDhcYtmACZ73 amgfxSfVGJRqWBIuj4/eVFHWLtOVSlY0VIWC9af8lmtfy8jWzNyOoKzAtfmt/e61sXcp tIL0/uxUOepsf+XbCmNy3UdPBRz5KzRdrzjSht3v46qagZToGLbfMWBkBFHdW6dE25Aq Mb98igIlFCIoaf+4dTl5sLu58+41evSpgbZozfob+Uv1JMXMXkWio4bgM5QTihIPtedI jxzUb/dl5XIsPBLrz8QJ9yvacZWyo6ZPZQDzRuvQ9Hv14CVwbr1nHE0MHDpOy9Stmdi0 ZnQw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :dkim-signature; bh=TwKQSjUpXFWL8EuQmlhS2JUuoVe1TI411x3M8yn06hI=; b=DBZCMFtDiB4TxfcCzu1nwzZ1a9b+LUsfXx/rThlRHajCLDJ51Cra7kFlNVTy5QRUmm jU1KtqU5Kb4wuUUqxQzS2oiG45RKVVHk5odbZH7ka0lRkrFSlzx3gQnEvpsQj4e9+HTD QtSCUqfWaorBR1bEKf8fgFf3JkSexr0j/fNlxjuK84Nwju91XjwqBDX0G7Tf7CV+Re5q QzQhBZF1gVtqfiCEQ7nk+hofcoJPNTWYTyNq4Fc9b7/xbEyFW1YC2TvWkDinGc69h81U z3lugNLjPBoOf2r1FbwiqoXEe2iqiIrVflsoeDDsbL7iDH6p24yNXvLOP9RB/CCShdJp QNnw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.s=korg header.b=wdf67NTn; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id dn15si6177803ejc.252.2021.09.17.01.34.35; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 01:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.s=korg header.b=wdf67NTn; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229955AbhIPT2Q (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:28:16 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:53736 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229455AbhIPT2Q (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:28:16 -0400 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DF9B610E9; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:26:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linux-foundation.org; s=korg; t=1631820413; bh=cj4YYql3ialFH5a3FIsQKbEh3n2waZxbKmXBYlo5ynk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=wdf67NTnj8bDQNSnGOX2sXk1GF2gDGSOttrakL9aAa7bg20ZWrn1C5mEpcQd9Vw1r K14k1JMqcRv2/wJBiXdHtKJ6WEM8L6rNW8lcAaoV0/6Z5nLmt5E/tjLUeErUhnajMU Rm7FKOONV0I+tiPRTX5DNzKLBHBEXAYdfQ8Q5QwQ= Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 12:26:52 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: James Bottomley , Chris Mason , Johannes Weiner , Kent Overstreet , Matthew Wilcox , Linus Torvalds , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , linux-fsdevel , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "Darrick J. Wong" , Christoph Hellwig , David Howells , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Folios as a potential Kernel/Maintainers Summit topic? Message-Id: <20210916122652.b6ab789e968263eb4ab31626@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <17242A0C-3613-41BB-84E4-2617A182216E@fb.com> <33a2000f56d51284e2df0cfcd704e93977684b59.camel@HansenPartnership.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:15:29 -0400 "Theodore Ts'o" wrote: > What typically happens is if someone were to try to play games like > this inside, say, the Networking subsystem, past a certain point, > David Miller will just take the patch series, ignoring people who have > NACK's down if they can't be justified. The difference is that even > though Andrew Morton (the titular maintainer for all of Memory > Management, per the MAINTAINERS file), Andrew seems to have a much > lighter touch on how the mm subsystem is run. I do the Dave thing sometimes. We aren't at that point with folios though. The discussions and objections and approvals are all substantial and things are still playing out.