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On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 09:29:32PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Greg,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 17 2021 at 17:20, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 12:38:43PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> Nah. I try to pay more attention. I'm not against AUTOSEL per se, but
> >> could we change the rules slightly?
> >> 
> >> Any change which is selected by AUTOSEL and lacks a Cc: stable@... is
> >> put on hold until acked by the maintainer unless it is a prerequisite
> >> for applying a stable tagged fix?
> >> 
> >> This can be default off and made effective on maintainer request.
> >> 
> >> Hmm?
> >
> > The whole point of the AUTOSEL patches are for the huge numbers of
> > subsystems where maintainers and developers do not care about the stable
> > trees at all, and so they do not mark patches to be backported.  So
> > requireing an opt-in like this would defeat the purpose.
> >
> > We do allow the ability to take files/subsystems out of the AUTOSEL
> > process as there are many maintainers that do do this right and get
> > annoyed when patches are picked that they feel shouldn't have.  That's
> > the best thing we can do for stuff like this.
> 
> I guess I was not able to express myself correctly. What I wanted to say
> is:
> 
>   1) Default is AUTOSEL
> 
>   2) Maintainer can take files/subsystems out of AUTOSEL completely
> 
>      Exists today
> 
>   3) Maintainer allows AUTOSEL, but anything picked from files/subsystems
>      without a stable tag requires an explicit ACK from the maintainer
>      for the backport.
> 
>      Is new and I would be the first to opt-in :)
> 
> My rationale for #3 is that even when being careful about stable tags,
> it happens that one is missing. Occasionaly AUTOSEL finds one of those
> in my subsystems which I appreciate.
> 
> Does that make more sense now?

Ah, yes, that makes much more sense, sorry for the confusion.

Sasha, what do you think?  You are the one that scripts all of this, not
me :)

greg k-h