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[209.85.167.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u16sm1180130ljj.0.2021.09.18.10.04.37 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f54.google.com with SMTP id i4so47170828lfv.4 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:04:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7f1c:: with SMTP id a28mr14383582ljd.56.1631984677088; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:04:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210918095134.GA5001@tower> <202109181311.18IDBKQB005215@valdese.nms.ulrich-teichert.org> In-Reply-To: <202109181311.18IDBKQB005215@valdese.nms.ulrich-teichert.org> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:04:20 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce and use absolute_pointer macro To: Ulrich Teichert Cc: Michael Cree , Guenter Roeck , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , "James E . J . Bottomley" , Helge Deller , "David S . Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , alpha , Geert Uytterhoeven , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, Netdev , Sparse Mailing-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 6:11 AM Ulrich Teichert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 11:35:36AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Naah. I think the Jensen actually had an ISA slot. Came with a > > > whopping 8MB too, so the ISA DMA should work just fine. > > > > > > Or maybe it was EISA only? I really don't remember. > > It's EISA only. I've made some pictures of a somewhat dusty inside of > a Jensen with 4 EISA cards (from bottom to top: SCSI, video, 2x network): Ok. Looking around the config options, there _are_ systems with ISA slots, but it's not the old Jensen one. It's apparently some evaluation boards but also the "AlphaPC64" one. So we do want CONFIG_ISA for alpha, even if not Jensen. (I forget which alpha I had. For some reason I want to think I had an EISA machine and probably Jensen. Maybe upgraded to a 164 later?) > I could not get a recent kernel to boot, but it's booting ancient kernels > just fine: > > Linux version 2.4.27-2-generic (tretkowski@bastille) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Sun May 29 18:40:58 UTC 2005 Ouch. Without having some kind of bisection, I guess we'll never know. And I assume it's not really been tested since, so it could be multiple reasons, including compiler updates causing dodgy code to not work etc etc. > While we're at it, during my vain attempts to get new kernels to boot, > I tried to disable PCI support to make the kernels smaller (after all, > the Jensen has only EISA, so what good would PCI support for?) and > got it to compile with the attached patch (which fixes some warnings, > too). Can you send me your Jensen config? I do not see why you should be using that horrible __EXERN_INLINE. It will cause gcc to sometimes not inline at all, and not generate the out-of-line body either. Sometimes that is what you want: you want to generate one single body of the function, and particularly one that is _different_ from the inlining case (ie for inlining you want to do the simple thing, for out-of-line you do something fancier). But that isn't the case here, so this looks like a workaround for something else. But this code does end up using preprocessor concatenation etc, so I might be missing some case. Linus