Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932528AbWLNUI5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:08:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932778AbWLNUI4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:08:56 -0500 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:1500 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932528AbWLNUI4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:08:56 -0500 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: RE: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:08:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20061214153949.GA3388@stusta.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:11:27 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:11:28 -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1373 Lines: 31 > And there's also the common misconception all costumers had enough > information when buying something. If you are a normal Linux user and > buy some hardware labelled "runs under Linux", it could turn out that's > with a Windows driver running under ndiswrapper... That is something that I think is well worth fixing. Doesn't Linus own the trademark 'Linux'? How about some rules for use of that trademark and a 'Works with Linux' logo that can only be used if the hardware specifications are provided? Let them provide a closed-source driver if they want. Let them provide user-space applications for which no source is provided if they want. But don't let them use the logo unless they release sufficient information to allow people to develop their own drivers and applications to interface with the hardware. That makes it clear that it's not about giving us the fruits of years of your own work but that it's about enabling us to do our own work. (I would have no objection to also requiring them to provide a minimal open-source driver. I'm not trying to work out the exact terms here, just get the idea out.) DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/