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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id mm25si147223ejb.307.2021.09.21.14.24.10; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 14:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=fvCrNTLn; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235066AbhIUUpj (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:45:39 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:58028 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235049AbhIUUph (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:45:37 -0400 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EA8E61156; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1632257048; bh=Ck7yVJFIXzTFvAFx0p96/tMpeKNlfNntmCEPNWDueOg=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=fvCrNTLnkeVpEZENUSbcIL3JRM/o/OG+6d9GKn5LIoXiDA6Gf8ZSe4X222Vfl1kRf BsfiSEbG24XluNMRo9/FWlVjdeP8umRwX8wCowvRDbkAdUp/irjqBrW/EMhjmYLxQa /gjOh8GquvqcaUfiGi6uMUikfkcgpi01u7o5AuLopaY7CNjLOiorGSMCrSXTJB73rT qxUs6EBdM/vNyglAZ+/LRS7pIJ6KLTmMFfWJwjuzADzOco2JOJ8PbY4Ne5balbfLO1 AYFMFZpcI/ugwREgOLPHqTq0NFEHcyMcxvelcmVNVVjLHyD6Hc7oqUbA0Es/0WDyPW mdCNQdNpDBBHQ== Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Stabellini X-X-Sender: sstabellini@sstabellini-ThinkPad-T480s To: Oleksandr Andrushchenko cc: Juergen Gross , Stefano Stabellini , "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" , "julien@xen.org" , "jbeulich@suse.com" , Anastasiia Lukianenko , Oleksandr Andrushchenko Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen-pciback: allow compiling on other archs than x86 In-Reply-To: <48a2ef20-02ad-99e4-a8f5-fa144692aadc@epam.com> Message-ID: References: <20210917130123.1764493-1-andr2000@gmail.com> <35e2e36a-bade-d801-faa1-c9953678bb9d@suse.com> <7f873e38-0362-1f60-7347-a490c9dc8572@epam.com> <0f31a1bf-62b1-1aef-7b0f-34a1f6985fdb@suse.com> <82e55df9-74d3-6365-ab29-2bdfc4b74a1f@epam.com> <9b4962de-61ef-44dc-ffca-c54dd7990c6a@suse.com> <0b83aa77-aef0-0d98-cc0b-cf5f9c7599bd@epam.com> <111389e7-855d-0023-092c-f3e8bc57f4af@suse.com> <48a2ef20-02ad-99e4-a8f5-fa144692aadc@epam.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-722727834-1632257047=:17979" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-722727834-1632257047=:17979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > On 21.09.21 10:09, Juergen Gross wrote: > > On 21.09.21 09:00, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > >> > >> On 21.09.21 09:49, Juergen Gross wrote: > >>> On 21.09.21 08:38, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 21.09.21 09:07, Juergen Gross wrote: > >>>>> On 21.09.21 07:51, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 21.09.21 08:20, Juergen Gross wrote: > >>>>>>> On 21.09.21 01:16, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 20.09.21 14:30, Juergen Gross wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On 20.09.21 07:23, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Stefano! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 18.09.21 00:45, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Oleksandr, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you want to enable pciback on ARM? Is it only to "disable" a PCI > >>>>>>>>>>>> device in Dom0 so that it can be safely assigned to a DomU? > >>>>>>>>>>> Not only that > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am asking because actually I don't think we want to enable the PV PCI > >>>>>>>>>>>> backend feature of pciback on ARM, right? That would clash with the PCI > >>>>>>>>>>>> assignment work you have been doing in Xen. They couldn't both work at > >>>>>>>>>>>> the same time. > >>>>>>>>>>> Correct, it is not used > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If we only need pciback to "park" a device in Dom0, wouldn't it be > >>>>>>>>>>>> possible and better to use pci-stub instead? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Not only that, so pci-stub is not enough > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The functionality which is implemented by the pciback and the toolstack > >>>>>>>>>>> and which is relevant/missing/needed for ARM: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. pciback is used as a database for assignable PCI devices, e.g. xl > >>>>>>>>>>>          pci-assignable-{add|remove|list} manipulates that list. So, whenever the > >>>>>>>>>>>          toolstack needs to know which PCI devices can be passed through it reads > >>>>>>>>>>>          that from the relevant sysfs entries of the pciback. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. pciback is used to hold the unbound PCI devices, e.g. when passing through > >>>>>>>>>>>          a PCI device it needs to be unbound from the relevant device driver and bound > >>>>>>>>>>>          to pciback (strictly speaking it is not required that the device is bound to > >>>>>>>>>>>          pciback, but pciback is again used as a database of the passed through PCI > >>>>>>>>>>>          devices, so we can re-bind the devices back to their original drivers when > >>>>>>>>>>>          guest domain shuts down) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Device reset > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> We have previously discussed on xen-devel ML possible solutions to that as from the > >>>>>>>>>>> above we see that pciback functionality is going to be only partially used on Arm. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Please see [1] and [2]: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. It is not acceptable to manage the assignable list in Xen itself > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. pciback can be split into two parts: PCI assignable/bind/reset handling and > >>>>>>>>>>> the rest like vPCI etc. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 3. pcifront is not used on Arm > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It is neither in x86 PVH/HVM guests. > >>>>>>>>> Didn't know that, thank you for pointing > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So, limited use of the pciback is one of the bricks used to enable PCI passthrough > >>>>>>>>>>> on Arm. It was enough to just re-structure the driver and have it run on Arm to achieve > >>>>>>>>>>> all the goals above. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If we still think it is desirable to break the pciback driver into "common" and "pcifront specific" > >>>>>>>>>>> parts then it can be done, yet the patch is going to be the very first brick in that building. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Doing this split should be done, as the pcifront specific part could be > >>>>>>>>>> omitted on x86, too, in case no PV guests using PCI passthrough have to > >>>>>>>>>> be supported. > >>>>>>>>> Agree, that the final solution should have the driver split > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So, I think this patch is still going to be needed besides which direction we take. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Some kind of this patch, yes. It might look different in case the split > >>>>>>>>>> is done first. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I don't mind doing it in either sequence. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> With this patch we have Arm on the same page as the above mentioned x86 guests, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> e.g. the driver has unused code, but yet allows Arm to function now. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> At this stage of PCI passthrough on Arm it is yet enough. Long term, when > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the driver gets split, Arm will benefit from that split too, but unfortunately I do not > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> have enough bandwidth for that piece of work at the moment. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That's fair and I don't want to scope-creep this simple patch asking for > >>>>>>>> an enormous rework. At the same time I don't think we should enable the > >>>>>>>> whole of pciback on ARM because it would be erroneous and confusing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As the first stage before the driver is split or ifdef's used - can we take the patch > >>>>>> as is now? In either way we chose this needs to be done, e.g. enable compiling > >>>>>> for other architectures and common code move. > >>>>> > >>>>> Fine with me in principle. I need to take a more thorough look > >>>>> at the patch, though. > >>>> Of course > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am wonder if there is a simple: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> if (!xen_pv_domain()) > >>>>>>>>         return; > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That we could add in a couple of places in pciback to stop it from > >>>>>>>> initializing the parts we don't care about. Something along these lines > >>>>>>>> (untested and probably incomplete). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What do you guys think? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Uh no, not in this way, please. This will kill pci passthrough on x86 > >>>>>>> with dom0 running as PVH. I don't think this is working right now, but > >>>>>>> adding more code making it even harder to work should be avoided. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/xen/xen-pciback/xenbus.c b/drivers/xen/xen-pciback/xenbus.c > >>>>>>>> index da34ce85dc88..991ba0a9b359 100644 > >>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/xen/xen-pciback/xenbus.c > >>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/xen-pciback/xenbus.c > >>>>>>>> @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ > >>>>>>>>      #include > >>>>>>>>      #include > >>>>>>>>      #include > >>>>>>>> +#include > >>>>>>>>      #include "pciback.h" > >>>>>>>>        #define INVALID_EVTCHN_IRQ  (-1) > >>>>>>>> @@ -685,8 +686,12 @@ static int xen_pcibk_xenbus_probe(struct xenbus_device *dev, > >>>>>>>>                      const struct xenbus_device_id *id) > >>>>>>>>      { > >>>>>>>>          int err = 0; > >>>>>>>> -    struct xen_pcibk_device *pdev = alloc_pdev(dev); > >>>>>>>> +    struct xen_pcibk_device *pdev; > >>>>>>>> + > >>>>>>>> +    if (!xen_pv_domain()) > >>>>>>>> +        return 0; > >>>>>>>>      +    pdev = alloc_pdev(dev); > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This hunk isn't needed, as with bailing out of xen_pcibk_xenbus_register > >>>>>>> early will result in xen_pcibk_xenbus_probe never being called. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>          if (pdev == NULL) { > >>>>>>>>              err = -ENOMEM; > >>>>>>>>              xenbus_dev_fatal(dev, err, > >>>>>>>> @@ -743,6 +748,9 @@ const struct xen_pcibk_backend *__read_mostly xen_pcibk_backend; > >>>>>>>>        int __init xen_pcibk_xenbus_register(void) > >>>>>>>>      { > >>>>>>>> +    if (!xen_pv_domain()) > >>>>>>>> +        return 0; > >>>>>>>> + > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Use #ifdef CONFIG_X86 instead. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The title of this patch says that we want to allow this driver for other archs > >>>>>> and now we want to introduce "#ifdef CONFIG_X86" which doesn't sound > >>>>>> right with that respect. Instead, we may want having something like a > >>>>>> dedicated gate for this, e.g. "#ifdef CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND_SUPP_PV" > >>>>>> or something which is architecture agnostic. > >>>>> > >>>>> Something like that, yes. But I'd rather use CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND > >>>>> acting as this gate and introduce CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB for the stub > >>>>> functionality needed on Arm. XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND would depend on X86 and > >>>>> select XEN_PCI_STUB, while on Arm XEN_PCI_STUB could be configured if > >>>>> wanted. The splitting of the driver can still be done later. > >>>> > >>>> Hm, pciback is now compiled when CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND is enabled > >>>> and we want to skip some parts of its code when CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB is set. > >>>> So, I imagine that for x86 we just enable CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND and the > >>>> driver compiles in its current state. For Arm we enable both CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND > >>>> and CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB, so part of the driver is not compiled. > >>> > >>> No, I'd rather switch to compiling xen-pciback when CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB > >>> is set and compile only parts of it when CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND is > >>> not set (this will be the case on Arm). > >> > >> But this will require that the existing kernel configurations out there have to additionally define CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB to get what they had before with simply enabling CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND. My point was that it is probably desirable not to break > >> the things while doing the split/re-work. > > > > By letting XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND select XEN_PCI_STUB this won't happen. > Indeed > > > >> I also thought that "compile only parts of it when CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND is not set" > >> may have more code gated rather than with gating unwanted code with CONFIG_XEN_PCI_STUB. > >> I am not quite sure about this though. > > > > This would be a very weird semantics of XEN_PCI_STUB, as the stub part > > is needed on X86 and on Arm. > > > > Gating could even be done with Stefano's patch just by replacing his > > "!xen_pv_domain()" tests with "!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND)". > > Makes sense. > > Another question if we do not want the code to be compiled or not executed? > > If the later then we can define something like: > > bool need_pv_part(void) > > { > >     return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_XEN_PCIDEV_BACKEND); > > } > > and then just use need_pv_part() for the checks where it is needed. > > This allows avoiding multiple ifdef's through the code This is even better. For my clarity, Oleksandr, are you OK with adding a few need_pv_part() checks through the code as part of this series so that the PV PCI backend is not initialized? I don't have a good test environment ready for this, so I cannot really volunteer myself. I would prefer if we made this change as part of this series so that the PV PCI backend features doesn't get enabled on ARM, not even temporarily. --8323329-722727834-1632257047=:17979--