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Lu" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:15:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling To: Dmitry Vyukov Cc: "Zhang, Xiang1" , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Dave Hansen , "Lutomirski, Andy" , Peter Zijlstra , "the arch/x86 maintainers" , Andrey Ryabinin , Alexander Potapenko , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Andi Kleen , Linux-MM , LKML , "Carlos O'Donell" , Marco Elver , Taras Madan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 1:03 PM Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:54, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 03:15, Zhang, Xiang1 w= rote: > > > > > > There are already in llvm.org. > > > One of my old patch is https://reviews.llvm.org/D102472 which has bee= n committed by https://reviews.llvm.org/D102901 and https://reviews.llvm.o= rg/D109790 > > > > Hi Xiang, > > > > Good sanitizer patches are upstream! > > > > Please help me to understand the status of other pieces (H.J. you > > probably talked about this yesterday, but I wasn't able to build a > > complete picture during the talk, I think it will be useful to have > > this in written form). > > > > 1. The presentation mentions "GCC: enable memory tagging with LAM in > > x86 codegen". > > What exactly is needed? Isn't LAM transparent for codegen? What's the > > status in gcc? Does a corresponding change need to be done in llvm? > > > > 2. "Enable LAM in binutils". > > This is already upstream in binutils 2.36, right? > > > > 3. The mentioned glibc patch: > > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/glibc/patch/20210211173711.71736-1-= hjl.tools@gmail.com/ > > Not upstream yet, targeting glibc 2.34. > > Do we need any support in other libc's, e.g. Android bionic? Here is my tagged address API proposal: https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-August/130382.html > > 4. "Avoid pointer operations incompatible with LAM. memmove: mask out > > memory tags before comparing pointers". > > Is this upstream? Where is the patch? Are there other similar patches? > > > > As a side note, regarding the memmove change: do we really need it? > > Memory regions can overlap only if they come from the same > > allocation/base object. If they come from different allocations, they > > can't overlap (undefined behavior already). > > > > 5. Do we need any additional enabling changes in clang/llvm? > > > > 6. The kernel patches (this email thread) depend on the CET patches > > (for the interface part only). And the CET patches is this, right? > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/?q=3Dx86%2Fcet%2Fshstk > > > > 7. Do I miss anything else? > > > > H.J. please upload your slides here: > > https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/11/contributions/1010/ > > It would help with links and copy-pasting text. > > > > FTR here is the link to the Plumbers talk: > > https://youtu.be/zUw0ZVXCwoM?t=3D10456 > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > BR > > > Xiang > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: H.J. Lu > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:16 AM > > > To: Dmitry Vyukov > > > Cc: Kirill A. Shutemov ; Kirill A. Shutemov ; Dave Hansen ; = Lutomirski, Andy ; Peter Zijlstra ; = the arch/x86 maintainers ; Andrey Ryabinin ; Alexander Potapenko ; Catalin Marinas ; Will Deacon ; Andi Kleen ; Linux-MM ; LKML = ; Carlos O'Donell ; Marco Elver ; Tara= s Madan ; Zhang, Xiang1 > > > Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:52 AM Dmitry Vyukov wr= ote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 15:11, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 09:24:23AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:16 PM Kirill A. Shutemov > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear Address Masking[1] (LAM) modifies the checking that is > > > > > > > applied to 64-bit linear addresses, allowing software to use = of > > > > > > > the untranslated address bits for metadata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The patchset brings support for LAM for userspace addresses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most sensitive part of enabling is change in tlb.c, where > > > > > > > CR3 flags get set. Please take a look that what I'm doing mak= es sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The patchset is RFC quality and the code requires more testin= g > > > > > > > before it can be applied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The userspace API is not finalized yet. The patchset extends = API > > > > > > > used by > > > > > > > ARM64: PR_GET/SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL. The API is adjusted to no= t > > > > > > > imply ARM > > > > > > > TBI: it now allows to request a number of bits of metadata > > > > > > > needed and report where these bits are located in the address= . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's an alternative proposal[2] for the API based on Intel > > > > > > > CET interface. Please let us know if you prefer one over anot= her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The feature competes for bits with 5-level paging: LAM_U48 ma= kes > > > > > > > it impossible to map anything about 47-bits. The patchset mad= e > > > > > > > these capability mutually exclusive: whatever used first wins= . > > > > > > > LAM_U57 can be combined with mappings above 47-bits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I include QEMU patch in case if somebody wants to play with t= he feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > Exciting! Do you plan to send the QEMU patch to QEMU? > > > > > > > > > > Sure. After more testing, once I'm sure it's conforming to the ha= rdware. > > > > > > > > A follow up after H.J.'s LPC talk: > > > > https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/11/contributions/1010/ > > > > (also +Carlos) > > > > > > > > As far as I understood, this kernel series depends on the Intel CET= patches. > > > > > > > > Where are these compiler-rt patches that block gcc support? > > > > > > Hi Xiang, > > > > > > Please share your compiler-rt changes for LAM. > > > > > > -- > > > H.J. --=20 H.J.