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From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Date:   Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:54:52 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Revert "ACPI: Add memory semantics to acpi_os_map_memory()"
To:     Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
        Jia He <justin.he@arm.com>,
        Harb Abdulhamid <harb@amperecomputing.com>,
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        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
        Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
        Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 2:26 PM Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 13:05:05 +0200
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:40 AM Lorenzo Pieralisi
> > <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 01:09:58AM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:33:36 +0100
> > > > > From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:32:23PM +0800, Jia He wrote:
> > > > > > This reverts commit 437b38c51162f8b87beb28a833c4d5dc85fa864e.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After this commit, a boot panic is alway hit on an Ampere EMAG server
> > > > > > with call trace as follows:
> > > > > >  Internal error: synchronous external abort: 96000410 [#1] SMP
> > > > > >  Modules linked in:
> > > > > >  CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 5.14.0+ #462
> > > > > >  Hardware name: MiTAC RAPTOR EV-883832-X3-0001/RAPTOR, BIOS 0.14 02/22/2019
> > > > > >  pstate: 60000005 (nZCv daif -PAN -UAO -TCO -DIT -SSBS BTYPE=--)
> > > > > > [...snip...]
> > > > > >  Call trace:
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_system_memory_space_handler+0x26c/0x2c8
> > > > > >   acpi_ev_address_space_dispatch+0x228/0x2c4
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_access_region+0x114/0x268
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_field_datum_io+0x128/0x1b8
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_extract_from_field+0x14c/0x2ac
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_read_data_from_field+0x190/0x1b8
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_resolve_node_to_value+0x1ec/0x288
> > > > > >   acpi_ex_resolve_to_value+0x250/0x274
> > > > > >   acpi_ds_evaluate_name_path+0xac/0x124
> > > > > >   acpi_ds_exec_end_op+0x90/0x410
> > > > > >   acpi_ps_parse_loop+0x4ac/0x5d8
> > > > > >   acpi_ps_parse_aml+0xe0/0x2c8
> > > > > >   acpi_ps_execute_method+0x19c/0x1ac
> > > > > >   acpi_ns_evaluate+0x1f8/0x26c
> > > > > >   acpi_ns_init_one_device+0x104/0x140
> > > > > >   acpi_ns_walk_namespace+0x158/0x1d0
> > > > > >   acpi_ns_initialize_devices+0x194/0x218
> > > > > >   acpi_initialize_objects+0x48/0x50
> > > > > >   acpi_init+0xe0/0x498
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As mentioned by Lorenzo:
> > > > > >   "We are forcing memory semantics mappings to PROT_NORMAL_NC, which
> > > > > >   eMAG does not like at all and I'd need to understand why. It looks
> > > > > >   like the issue happen in SystemMemory Opregion handler."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hence just revert it before everything is clear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fixes: 437b38c51162 ("ACPI: Add memory semantics to acpi_os_map_memory()")
> > > > > > Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> > > > > > Cc: Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Harb Abdulhamid <harb@amperecomputing.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jia He <justin.he@arm.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Rewrote the commit log, please take the patch below and repost
> > > > > it as a v3.
> > > > >
> > > > > It would still be great if Ampere can help us understand why
> > > > > the NormalNC attributes trigger a sync abort on the opregion
> > > > > before merging it.
> > > >
> > > > To be honest, I don't think you really need an explanation from Ampere
> > > > here.  Mapping a part of the address space that doesn't provide memory
> > > > semantics with NormalNC attributes is wrong and triggering a sync
> > > > abort in that case is way better than silently ignoring the access.
> > >
> > > That's understood and that's what I explained in the revert commit
> > > log, no question about it.
> > >
> > > I was just asking to confirm if that's what's actually happening.
> > >
> > > > Putting my OpenBSD hat on (where we have our own ACPI OSPM
> > > > implementation) I must say that we always interpreted SystemMemory as
> > > > memory mapped IO and I think that is a logical choice as SystemIO is
> > > > used for (non-memory mapped) IO.  And I'd say that the ACPI OSPM code
> > > > should make sure that it uses properly aligned access to any Field
> > > > object that doesn't use AnyAcc as its access type.  Even on x86!  And
> > > > I'd say that AML that uses AnyAcc fields for SystemMemory OpRegions on
> > > > arm64 is buggy.
> > > >
> > > > But maybe relaxing this when the EFI memory map indicates that the
> > > > address space in question does provide memory semantics does make
> > > > sense.  That should defenitely be documented in the ACPI standard
> > > > though.
> > >
> > > Mapping SystemMemory Opregions as "memory" does not make sense
> > > at all to me. Still, that's what Linux ACPICA code does (*if*
> > > that's what acpi_os_map_memory() is supposed to mean).
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20210916160827.GA4525@lpieralisi
> >
> > It doesn't need to do that, though, if there are good enough arguments
> > to change the current behavior (and the argument here is that it may
> > be an MMIO region, so mapping it as memory doesn't really work, but it
> > also may be a region in memory - there is no rule in the spec by which
> > SystemMemory Opregions cannot be "memory" AFAICS) and if that change
> > doesn't introduce regressions in the installed base.
> >
> > > Where do we go from here, to be defined, we still have a bug
> > > to fix after the revert is applied.
> > >
> > > drivers/acpi/sysfs.c
> > >
> > > maps BERT error regions with acpi_os_map_memory().
> >
> > That mechanism is basically used for exporting ACPI tables to user
> > space and they are known to reside in memory.  Whether or not BERT
> > regions should be mapped in the same way is a good question.
>
> It is not inconceivable that BERT regions actually live in memory of
> the BMC that is exposed over a bus that doesn't implement memory
> semantics is it?

No, it isn't, which is why I think that mapping them as RAM may not be
a good idea in general.

At the same time, mapping the ACPI tables like the DSDT etc. as RAM is
always valid.