Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752376AbWLQKfG (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:35:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752375AbWLQKfF (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:35:05 -0500 Received: from vervifontaine.sonytel.be ([80.88.33.193]:38014 "EHLO vervifontaine.sonycom.com" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752376AbWLQKfE (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:35:04 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 1425 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:35:04 EST Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:11:12 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: David Schwartz cc: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: RE: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1887 Lines: 43 On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, David Schwartz wrote: > > And there's also the common misconception all costumers had enough > > information when buying something. If you are a normal Linux user and > > buy some hardware labelled "runs under Linux", it could turn out that's > > with a Windows driver running under ndiswrapper... > > That is something that I think is well worth fixing. Doesn't Linus own the > trademark 'Linux'? How about some rules for use of that trademark and a > 'Works with Linux' logo that can only be used if the hardware specifications > are provided? Exactly my thoughts... > Let them provide a closed-source driver if they want. Let them provide > user-space applications for which no source is provided if they want. But > don't let them use the logo unless they release sufficient information to > allow people to develop their own drivers and applications to interface with > the hardware. > > That makes it clear that it's not about giving us the fruits of years of > your own work but that it's about enabling us to do our own work. (I would > have no objection to also requiring them to provide a minimal open-source > driver. I'm not trying to work out the exact terms here, just get the idea > out.) Since `works with' may sound a bit too vague, something like `LinuxFriendly(tm)', with a happy penguin logo? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/