Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752513AbWLQMSF (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:18:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752514AbWLQMSF (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:18:05 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]:49827 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752513AbWLQMSC (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:18:02 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=ZgZVPvBnIAs5jpxvdC/zOH2dMRfRg8yCrHIdjkCEdwh/jpAWDwtsrZzGvtFqha48Yq0TTQOtYxUihB9RU0Ip9NBjA8ndvBX8zCVjXSlJDzUfUT81IAlI3olnTtZ3JIRt7Ybrojq89MAkvA69GbmsNAr86l6MvSXNT4hcuG6Sknk= From: Denis Vlasenko To: Marek Wawrzyczny Subject: Re: Binary Drivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:17:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200612162007.32110.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200612162007.32110.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612171317.13262.vda.linux@googlemail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1656 Lines: 36 On Saturday 16 December 2006 10:07, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > The open source driver development is promising but it has been mentioned > several times that the project is undermanned and the vendors are not > forthcoming with the necessary information. > My hardware as it stands today is still not working with the open-source > drivers. Perhaps this is the case of PEBCAK and not the open-source drivers > per se but with a 1-4 hour turnaround to test a new version of the r300 > driver it is not a small effort on my part. Still, I'm eagerly awaiting the > day that I'll be able to use an open-source driver that is on par with the > ati one. I buy the hardware. I actually want to get enough information about it so that I can write a driver for it for my homegrown OS. In the "old days" hardware was accompanied with such info. For example, printers had control ESC sequences listed, etc. These days, printers come with elaborate idiot-proof manuals "how to properly connect your printer to the AC outlet" and "how to properly insert Windows driver CD". Ever met those Windows-only "GDI" printers which do not speak any known open standard (they eat proprietary bitmap input instead)? Why vendor has a right to restrict me to a few existing OSes? I think that something is wrong here. Are there countries where such practuce (of not providing tech info for writing drivers) is illegal? -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/