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Date:   Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:29:42 +0100
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:

> On 30/09/2021 14:39, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > 
> >> On 30/09/2021 11:23, Lee Jones wrote:
> >>> [0] Full disclosure: part of my role at Linaro is to keep the Android
> >>> kernel running as close to Mainline as possible and encourage/push the
> >>> upstream-first mantra, hence my involvement with this and other sets.
> >>> I assure you all intentions are good and honourable.  If you haven't
> >>> already seen it, please see Todd's most recent update on the goals and
> >>> status of GKI:
> >>>
> >>>   Article: https://tinyurl.com/saaen3sp
> >>>   Video:   https://youtu.be/O_lCFGinFPM
> >>>
> >>
> >> Side topic, why this patchset is in your scope or Will's/Google's scope?
> >> Just drop it from Android main kernel, it will not be your problem. I
> >> mean, really, you don't need this patchset in your tree at all. The only
> >> platform which needs it, the only platform which will loose something
> >> will be one specific vendor. Therefore this will be an incentive for
> >> them to join both discussions and upstream development. :)
> > 
> > How would they fix this besides upstreaming support for unreleased
> > work-in-progress H/W?
> > 
> > Haven't I explained this several times already? :)
> 
> Either that way or the same as Will's doing but that's not my question.
> I understand you flush the queue of your GKI patches to be closer to
> upstream. Reduce the backlog/burden. you can achieve your goal by simply
> dropping such patch and making it not your problem. :)

git reset --hard mainline/master   # job done - tea break  :)

Seriously though, we wish to encourage the use of GKI so all vendors
can enjoy the benefits of more easily updateable/secure code-bases.

I can't see how pushing back on seamlessly benign changes would
benefit them or anyone else.

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Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Senior Technical Lead - Developer Services
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