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[209.85.167.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b26sm723293lji.128.2021.10.01.09.36.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f54.google.com with SMTP id x27so40559389lfa.9 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:36:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a19:ef01:: with SMTP id n1mr6592631lfh.150.1633106163819; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210928211507.20335-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> <87lf3f7eh6.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20210929174146.GF22689@gate.crashing.org> <2088260319.47978.1633104808220.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <871r54ww2k.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <871r54ww2k.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 09:35:47 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] LKMM: Add ctrl_dep() macro for control dependency To: Florian Weimer Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers , Segher Boessenkool , Will Deacon , paulmck , Peter Zijlstra , linux-kernel , Alan Stern , Andrea Parri , Boqun Feng , Nicholas Piggin , David Howells , j alglave , luc maranget , akiyks , linux-toolchains , linux-arch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:26 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > Will any conditional branch do, or is it necessary that it depends in > some way on the data read? The condition needs to be dependent on the read. (Easy way to see it: if the read isn't related to the conditional or write data/address, the read could just be delayed to after the condition and the store had been done). Linus