Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964916AbWLTHul (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:50:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754431AbWLTHul (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:50:41 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:43019 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753556AbWLTHuk (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:50:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Changes to PM layer break userspace From: Arjan van de Ven To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Greg KH , David Brownell , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20061220055209.GA20483@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20061219185223.GA13256@srcf.ucam.org> <200612191959.43019.david-b@pacbell.net> <20061220042648.GA19814@srcf.ucam.org> <200612192114.49920.david-b@pacbell.net> <20061220053417.GA29877@suse.de> <20061220055209.GA20483@srcf.ucam.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Intel International BV Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:50:24 +0100 Message-Id: <1166601025.3365.1345.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 (2.8.2.1-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 753 Lines: 20 > Seriously. How many pieces of userspace-visible functionality have > recently been removed without there being any sort of alternative? There IS an alternative, you're using it for networking: You *down the interface*. If there's a NIC that doesn't support that let us (or preferably netdev) know and it'll get fixed quickly I'm sure. -- if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com Test the interaction between Linux and your BIOS via http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/