Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030362AbWLTVWi (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:22:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030361AbWLTVWi (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:22:38 -0500 Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.190]:20719 "EHLO mo-p07-ob.rzone.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030324AbWLTVWg (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:22:36 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 407 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:22:35 EST Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:15:44 +0100 (MET) From: Stefan Rompf To: Arjan van de Ven Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: Olivier Galibert , Matthew Garrett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <20061219185223.GA13256@srcf.ucam.org> <20061220152701.GA22928@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1166628858.3365.1425.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: <1166628858.3365.1425.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612202217.31066.stefan@loplof.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 750 Lines: 17 Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 16:34 schrieb Arjan van de Ven: > 5 seconds is unfair and unrealistic though. The *hardware* negotiation > before link is seen can easily take upto 45 seconds already. > That's a network topology/hardware issue (spanning tree fun) that > software or even the hardware in your PC can do nothing about. Spanning tree decides whether or not a port forwards traffic. It has nothing to do with link beat detection and autonegotation, so it shouldn't be an issue here. Stefan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/