Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161138AbWLUCFx (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:05:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161140AbWLUCFw (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:05:52 -0500 Received: from smtp.rutgers.edu ([128.6.72.243]:12977 "EHLO annwn14.rutgers.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161138AbWLUCFv (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:05:51 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 502 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:05:51 EST From: Michael Wu To: Matthew Garrett Subject: Re: Network drivers that don't suspend on interface down Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:05:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: Stephen Hemminger , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <20061220042648.GA19814@srcf.ucam.org> <20061220144906.7863bcd3@dxpl.pdx.osdl.net> <20061221011209.GA32625@srcf.ucam.org> In-Reply-To: <20061221011209.GA32625@srcf.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4356205.82yB7HVHTv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200612202105.31093.flamingice@sourmilk.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1559 Lines: 44 --nextPart4356205.82yB7HVHTv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 20 December 2006 20:12, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Veering off at something of a tangent - how much of this should be true > for wireless devices? Softmac seems to be unhappy about setting the > essid unless the card is up, which breaks various assumptions... > Softmac isn't the only wireless code that likes to be configured after goin= g=20 up first. Configuring after the card goes up has generally been more=20 reliable, though that should not be necessary and is a bug IMHO.=20 > Beyond that, I think your descriptions of up and down states make sense > for userspace. As Arjan suggests, there's then the intermediate state of > "disable as much as possible while still providing scanning and link > detection". > In order to scan, we need to have the radio on and we need to be able to se= nd=20 and receive. What are you gonna turn off? =2DMichael Wu --nextPart4356205.82yB7HVHTv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFievrT3Oqt9AH4aERAkq6AJ9XIautZ/Kw9l/wGKN0aoVyh0xVoQCeM7OL t8i3j+Z2tEYPAMH9LjD/5Io= =BpWz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4356205.82yB7HVHTv-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/