Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422771AbWLUHGD (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:06:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422776AbWLUHGD (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:06:03 -0500 Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.205]:21030 "HELO smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1422771AbWLUHGA (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:06:00 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=ZSt/m/P+v1+a7rEfcrn8Kpraqyo5fnS1+FHxM4rkisAb4PF5wp7Z+tDoGzLe/MhU/L4hxAC1DmDGt2qrKELRpHI5N7tEe+WBey02qIEuVq/ftW0j3GOopkPKZSguKbo4n4B6Y/3GPOHmmYCpBDfHENUc5HMZoUnIpulV0fEjyfQ= ; X-YMail-OSG: _ECHhegVM1kGZxRJn9HCRDuZ3CNz5liOotpfnEkx5xGdbd15G9qmSkHKgFJaLPgDli.ROcogEGh5ptEOC4ZHMiPP34IsGjJCi2Uq9guh3JVIe7kTy8GJ4lQ0FQTtPkPdoo2xrd5BQLHGJxRstufu59lo3oAPjXxdyhZj_ZO_mYHXVZfnhlrZLmG7pZ72 From: David Brownell To: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Changes to sysfs PM layer break userspace Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:05:57 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 Cc: Matthew Garrett , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de References: <20061219185223.GA13256@srcf.ucam.org> <200612202056.28177.david-b@pacbell.net> <20061220210214.f9b94889.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20061220210214.f9b94889.akpm@osdl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612202305.57791.david-b@pacbell.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1379 Lines: 30 On Wednesday 20 December 2006 9:02 pm, Andrew Morton wrote: > > ... see my original reply in this thread. If "the answer" is > > to involve making PCI devices work again, better solutions include reverting > > the patch I mentioned (adding the suspend_late/resume_early support to PCI) > > or a version of what Matthew has produced (poking through bus layers so > > that test can be made to fail when the bus supports those methods but the > > specific device's driver doesn't use them). > > > > We appear to have a choice of three options. But I see no fix in Greg's > tree. Please let's not just accidentally forget to do this. Plus the fourth "leave it be" option, which I guess you're voting against. Of those options, I'd go for something like Matthew's patch to add a new layer-punching hook. (I'll look at his latest tomorrow, and do something appropriate with it.) It's interesting that there was no evident motion on these network PM issues after the OLS (and then netdev) discussion last summer ... but there is now much more active discussion. Evidently PM issues are still ignored until a fire gets set. - Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/