Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422964AbWLUQdN (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:33:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422967AbWLUQdN (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:33:13 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]:47845 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422965AbWLUQdM (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:33:12 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i4k1+whKDk98yKmI2wSQfleqHQIPVt2P3ZFmo65gEN4bUlW+SzflZ45pESDa8BciZnanjVQyo0cw3q7NdcAN04OTin7IzVmaI915yycjLWwAEBBDfdW431cqn7JRjRNb8DcZJvjCjvEfPEJXwl4iv0hNr8IqTJxk7NbfqWbwhYo= Message-ID: <7b69d1470612210833k79c93617nba96dbc717113723@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:33:10 -0600 From: "Scott Preece" To: "Eric W. Biederman" Subject: Re: Binary Drivers Cc: "Tomas Carnecky" , "Alexey Dobriyan" , "James Porter" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061215220117.GA24819@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru> <4583527D.4000903@dbservice.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1774 Lines: 41 On 12/18/06, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > We have a process that has worked for centuries to improve our > knowledge base. The scientific method and peer review. We use a > variation of this proven process for writing software in linux. The > binary only vendors are being rude and refusing to participate. > > Do you understand why we have no sympathy for their efforts, no desire > to make their lives easier. > > In general people doing binary only drivers are being rude. --- Which is more rude: (a) "Thank you for requesting a driver to support our hardware on Linux. Unfortunately, we don't have time either to provide such a driver or write the documentation that would allow you do so. The Linux market is not big enough to justify the work, and as a result we cannot offer you any support.", or (b) "Thank you for requesting a driver to support our hardware on Linux. Unfortunately, we don't have time either to provide such a driver or write the documentation that would allow you do so. The Linux market is not big enough to justify the legal and technical expense involved. However, we can provide you with this binary driver that we believe will allow you to use the hardware in your system, just as we provide binary drivers for other hardware platforms." You say "It's rude to not play by our rules". They say "It's rude of you to expect us to change our business model to support your niche market differently from the way we support everyone else." Neither is wrong... scott scott - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/