Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1423007AbWLUSRU (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:17:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1423005AbWLUSRU (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:17:20 -0500 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([128.173.14.107]:55259 "EHLO turing-police.cc.vt.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422999AbWLUSRU (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:17:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200612211816.kBLIGFdf024664@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Giuseppe Bilotta Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:06:43 +0100." <13yc6wkb4m09f$.e9chic96695b.dlg@40tude.net> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <200612162007.32110.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> <4587097D.5070501@opensound.com> <13yc6wkb4m09f$.e9chic96695b.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1166724975_12674P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:16:15 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2193 Lines: 54 --==_Exmh_1166724975_12674P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:06:43 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta said: > So while what you say is perfectly sensible for *software* developers, > it has absolutely nothing to do with the closed source drivers > *hardware* companies distribute. The problem is that the software drivers reveal an awful lot about the innards of the hardware, which is something the hardware companies *do* want to protect. > This all being said, I think that the only thing that can shake > companies such as nVidia and ATI is a project such as the Open > Graphics Card At least nVidia *does* actually Get It, they just don't have a choice in implementing it, because all their current hardware includes patents that they licensed from other companies (I believe some of the OpenGL stuff that originated at SGI and got bought by Microsoft is involved, but I have no hard references for actual patent numbers). And then they have the big problem - do they keep using the patent in order to boost performance, or no? If they produce a blazing-fast card and they manage to sell to 30% of the Windows users, they've sold to about 27% of all computer users. If they skip the patent and produce a slower card to please the Linux users, even if they sell to half the Linux users, that's only 5-6% of the market. Which course of action is any CFO going to choose? (And let's not underestimate the possibility that some yet-undisclosed submarine patent will torpedo the Open Graphics Card if they unwittingly re-invent something owned by a company that wants the card to fail....) --==_Exmh_1166724975_12674P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFFis9vcC3lWbTT17ARAimzAKCU8mhvQEOWQwhdervMau931pb35gCg7Q67 w9U6y7YBseM7kMjgdRmS4uI= =SJjX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1166724975_12674P-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/