Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:18:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:18:18 -0500 Received: from AGrenoble-101-1-3-194.abo.wanadoo.fr ([193.253.251.194]:38796 "EHLO strider.virtualdomain.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3BF83459.9080601@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:21:13 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Cami User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011012 X-Accept-Language: en-us, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.A. Magallon" Cc: James A Sutherland , war , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Swap In-Reply-To: <3BF82443.5D3E2E11@starband.net> <20011118230540.A2042@werewolf.able.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org J.A. Magallon wrote: > Yes, a box without swap runs faster, but if you *don't do anything* with it. The test > shown in previous mails had a ton of apps opened *doing nothing*. Try do do > a grep several times on the kernel source tree for example in that scenario. > Or a kernel build. They will be dog slow (all the tries). Try the same on > a box with swap, the second time much things are cached and it flies. I tend to both agree and disagree with you. fact : I don't use more than 350MB of my 512MB for apps (and that's a worst case scenario), and I guess than 150MB of RAM is enough for caching, at least in my case. I agree that a box that uses 99% of its RAM for apps will be dog slow ; but I simply have to disagree with swapping apps I *use* when 66% of my RAM is free. Have you tried pulling openoffice from swap to RAM ? If doing a second [and third, and so on] grep on the kernel source tree is dog slow without swap, pulling openoffice from swap is *snail* slow. Fran?ois - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/