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Subject: RE: [Patch v5 0/3] Introduce a driver to support host accelerated
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> Subject: Re: [Patch v5 0/3] Introduce a driver to support host accelerate=
d access
> to Microsoft Azure Blob for Azure VM
>=20
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>=20
> > On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 01:11:02PM +0200, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> >> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> >>
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > Not to mention the whole crazy idea of "let's implement our REST
> >> > api that used to go over a network connection over an ioctl instead!=
"
> >> > That's the main problem that you need to push back on here.
> >> >
> >> > What is forcing you to put all of this into the kernel in the first
> >> > place?  What's wrong with the userspace network connection/protocol
> >> > that you have today?
> >> >
> >> > Does this mean that we now have to implement all REST apis that
> >> > people dream up as ioctl interfaces over a hyperv transport?  That
> >> > would be insane.
> >>
> >> As far as I understand, the purpose of the driver is to replace a "slo=
w"
> >> network connection to API endpoint with a "fast" transport over
> >> Vmbus.
> >
> > Given that the network connection is already over vmbus, how is this
> > "slow" today?  I have yet to see any benchmark numbers anywhere :(
> >
> >> So what if instead of implementing this new driver we just use
> >> Hyper-V Vsock and move API endpoint to the host?
> >
> > What is running on the host in the hypervisor that is supposed to be
> > handling these requests?  Isn't that really on some other guest?
> >
>=20
> Long,
>=20
> would it be possible to draw a simple picture for us describing the backe=
nd flow
> of the feature, both with network connection and with this new driver? We=
're
> struggling to understand which particular bottleneck the driver is trying=
 to
> eliminate.

Thank you for this great suggestion. I'm preparing some diagrams for descri=
bing the problem. I will be sending them soon.

Thanks,

Long

>=20
> --
> Vitaly