Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753188AbWLVXPL (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:15:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753083AbWLVXPL (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:15:11 -0500 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:3551 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753188AbWLVXPJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <458C66FF.4040001@webmaster.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:15:11 -0800 From: "Nikolaos D. Bougalis" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041206 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hancockr@shaw.ca CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Binary Drivers References: <458C4DD1.6000903@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <458C4DD1.6000903@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: nikb@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:08 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 216.152.70.34 X-Return-Path: nikb@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: nikb@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:10 -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1652 Lines: 34 Robert Hancock wrote: > Nikolaos D. Bougalis wrote: >> Manufacturers design product as they see fit and offer it on the >> market; I don't see nVidia or ATI thugs twisting your arm behind you >> as you walk down the aisle of Fry's Electronics saying "buy this nice >> card we made or I'll break your arm." > > If you need high-performance 3D they might as well be, as realistically > ATI and NVIDIA are the only providers of high-performance video for the > consumer market. Nobody else makes anything that competes, not even > onboard video chipsets like Intel, SiS, etc. My point was that nowadays most manufacturers, as a matter of course, do not provide full details on how the hardware is programmed, and there appears to be no significant market for high-performance 3D graphics with an open specification. I do not like owning a space heater with nifty DVI outputs, and that is a fact I take into account when I make a purchasing decision for graphics cards I will be using with Linux. But I realize that ultimately, companies respond to markets, and not idealism and know that ACME Hardware will publish the specs for their rocket-shoes when the piece of the Linux rocket-shoe pie becomes lucrative enough. And because I do, I try to change the market and educate consumers -- not browbeat companies or turn the piece into a crumble by limiting what consumers can do. -n - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/