Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753233AbWLYAar (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:30:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753322AbWLYAar (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:30:47 -0500 Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.190]:57043 "EHLO mo-p07-ob.rzone.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753233AbWLYAaq (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:30:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 01:30:41 +0100 (MET) From: Wolfgang Draxinger Organization: DARKSTARgames To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: Binary Drivers User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200612242020.kBOKKtS9009605@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> In-Reply-To: <200612242020.kBOKKtS9009605@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> Cc: "Horst H. von Brand" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1430551.JLlZ0uriNR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200612250133.27413.wdraxinger@darkstargames.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3022 Lines: 72 --nextPart1430551.JLlZ0uriNR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 24. Dezember 2006 21:20 schrieb Horst H. von Brand: > It is done regularly. Current cars control the fuel injection etc > via an onboard computer, without this control the engine just won't > start. Did you get the specs for the exact fuel control algorithm > with your car? Should you be able to fool around with that, thus > violating emission control measures (this would damage not only > you, but everybody)? You won't get access to the software source code, but the car=20 manufactors are required to document and publish the interfaces to=20 their hardware, so that also independent car workshops are able to do=20 maintenance and repair on it. You have ever heared of chip tuning? Chip tuning is a replacement of=20 the original firmware with a 3rd party one, that will give higher=20 power and torque. So your gave a perfect example from another industry, where the specs=20 are actually published. Again: We don't want the original drivers being open sourced. All we=20 want is access to the hardware interface documentation, so that we=20 can develop our very own drivers. And heck: With a custom driver for=20 some RAID controller or a graphics card you will hardly violate any=20 regulations. There might be issues with radio hardware, but surprisingly the=20 drivers for the good stuff (i.e. not those cheapo cards with lousy=20 range and throughput) are open source (Prism/HostAP). I'd even say, that selling hardware without giving documentation is=20 illegal also from a competitions law point of view. By supplying a=20 driver only for a small range of operating systems you, as the=20 factual owner of a piece of hardware are hindered to use it in the=20 way you like, e.g. use it with the homebrew operating system you=20 wrote (or a finnish student wrote in 1991 ;-)). Thus the HW=20 manufactor delivering drivers only for a small range of operating=20 systems can be assumed to distort the market by biasing one specific=20 operting system manufactor _and_ hardware manufactors. Remember, that=20 many binary only drivers for Linux are only avaliable for the x86=20 variant. Only few are also avaliable for x86_64 (AMD64), even fewer=20 for IA64 and for other architectures it's getting homeopathic. This=20 is IMHO a extreme distortion of the free market. Happy holydays Wolfgang Draxinger --nextPart1430551.JLlZ0uriNR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFjxxXBfWmRR/TvT4RAnyQAJwJgVI67g0uLlQdsCvLXK7pP9ZvCwCg7w5w UOTTUN67MVfjF0RNMys790Y= =AlWl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1430551.JLlZ0uriNR-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/