Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932513AbWLZLdT (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 06:33:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932517AbWLZLdT (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 06:33:19 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]:32964 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932513AbWLZLdS (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 06:33:18 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EhYBgP9Oszhet7ntrbAF294CheuLg9CHauAgN6Ik2Hx/3LCWxSt7jPnEuhSVG0TKQifhPZ9Il851Npp1QipqUJ8Xl12dLUs32bRlBXIY1sj7R978XIq3OwiCO1bzAIF62RM6W8kpazDsW7WyvZJPItg5FwlctvTlvfqflPcFU0g= Message-ID: <3d57814d0612260333h7a7a835dwf5b95a3ad26ad2ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:33:16 +1000 From: "Trent Waddington" To: knobi@knobisoft.de Subject: Re: Binary Drivers Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20061226111308.79965.qmail@web32615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061226111308.79965.qmail@web32615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1528 Lines: 32 On 12/26/06, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Oh, if only for Christmas - stop this stupid car comparisons. They are > just that - utter nonsense. > > And now lets stop the car nonsense !!!! :-) I agree, if you really want to talk about cars, I can relate the woes I've heard from mechanics about how impossible it is to service new model Fords these days. Without the engine management systems diagnostics devices they can't do anything. Ford controls who gets these devices and demands a cut of every service, essentially setting the price. Service centers that don't play ball don't get the devices or get the devices taken away from them if they question Ford's pricing policies. Of course, this should be illegal, and our governments should be enforcing antitrust laws, but Ford is a big company and has lots of lawyers.. Repco and other after market manufacturers can't easily make a clone of these devices like they do every other part, because reverse engineering software is not really as advanced as reverse engineering spare parts.. or maybe software reverse engineering is just so much more expensive than automotive reverse engineering that it is not cost effective to clone these devices.. or maybe they're just afraid of the lawyers too. Trent - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/