Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932775AbWLZTxv (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:53:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932776AbWLZTxu (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:53:50 -0500 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:3651 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932775AbWLZTxu (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:53:50 -0500 From: "David Schwartz" To: Cc: , , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: RE: Binary Drivers Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:53:02 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <7b69d1470612261120n6218500ctbfc64bf5627892d@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:56:02 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:56:03 -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1823 Lines: 41 > Again, while some of the car/house analogies may describe situations > where the seller has not conveyed all the rights, the video card > situation is completely different. You have the right to do what you > like with it and the seller retains no rights. Lack of documentation > is not an imposition on your rights, unless you had a specific promise > of documentation from the seller. I'm curious if you really believe this. So let me set up one last hypothetical. You buy a phone for $200. The manufacturer only represents that it works with CarrierCo. (You do not buy the phone form CarrierCo.) Two months later, CarrierCo stops supporting your phone's configuration. You need to make a configuration change to the phone to get it to work on CarrierCo's "newly upgraded" network. You go to change the phone's configuration and you discover it requires a code. You call the manufacturer of the phone and say "hey, it's my phone, give me my lock out code". The manufacturer says, "sure, for $450". You have the right to do what you like with the phone, of course. It's a great doorstop and a reasonable paper weight. The manufacturer didn't promise the phone's configuration wouldn't become obsolete or that you would be able to change the configuration. Lack of documentation is not an imposition on your rights, and you had no specific promise of documentation from the seller. I have to say, it honestly astonishes me that would people would make arguments like these. Are we so used to these kinds of one-sided arrangements that we've lost our common sense? DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/