Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932852AbWLZXhj (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:37:39 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932749AbWLZXhj (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:37:39 -0500 Received: from inti.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.21.155]:50284 "EHLO inti.inf.utfsm.cl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932852AbWLZXhi (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:37:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200612262337.kBQNbKIo005296@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> To: davids@webmaster.com cc: knobi@knobisoft.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Binary Drivers In-Reply-To: Message from "David Schwartz" of "Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:12:44 -0800." X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.1; XEmacs 21.5 (beta27) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:20 -0300 From: "Horst H. von Brand" X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (inti.inf.utfsm.cl [200.1.21.155]); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:31 -0300 (CLST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2011 Lines: 47 David Schwartz wrote: [..] . > The point is that any rights the manufacturer may have had to the car should > have been sold along with the car, otherwise it's not a normal free and > clear sale. A normal free and clear sale includes all rights to the item > sold, except those specific laws allows the manufacturer to retain. This is complete nonsense. The car manufacturer can very well agree with you to sell you the right to only drive the car on weekdays, and rent it off on weekends. Nothing forces them to sell "all rights they have on the car". [...] > I simply do not accept the argument that it is lawful for a manufacturer to > sell a physical object in a normal free and clear sale and then refuse to > disclose the knowledge necessary to use it. Ask a lawyer about this, don't impose your wacky legal theories on us. > (And by that I mean necessary to > use it any reasonable way, not just the way the manufacturer intended it to > be used.) Define "reasonable way". The manufacturer could very well define it as "use the XYZ graphics card on Windows XP service pack 2", as it was designed specifically for that environment. Everything else (use on Linux, for example) is then "unreasonable use", and need not be supported at all. > This same issue has been pressed in other areas Examples? > and I think it's time it be > pressed with graphics cards. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 2797513 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/