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From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Date:   Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:09:11 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] PM: sleep: Fix runtime PM based cpuidle support
To:     Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
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        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
        Maulik Shah <mkshah@codeaurora.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
        Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 4:05 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 15:45, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 1:49 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 20:18, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 4:44 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In the cpuidle-psci case, runtime PM in combination with the generic PM
> > > > > domain (genpd), may be used when entering/exiting an idlestate. More
> > > > > precisely, genpd relies on runtime PM to be enabled for the attached device
> > > > > (in this case it belongs to a CPU), to properly manage the reference
> > > > > counting of its PM domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > This works fine most of the time, but during system suspend in the
> > > > > dpm_suspend_late() phase, the PM core disables runtime PM for all devices.
> > > > > Beyond this point and until runtime PM becomes re-enabled in the
> > > > > dpm_resume_early() phase, calls to pm_runtime_get|put*() will fail.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make sure the reference counting in genpd becomes correct, we need to
> > > > > prevent cpuidle-psci from using runtime PM when it has been disabled for
> > > > > the device. Therefore, let's move the call to cpuidle_pause() from
> > > > > dpm_suspend_noirq() to dpm_suspend_late() - and cpuidle_resume() from
> > > > > dpm_resume_noirq() into dpm_resume_early().
> > > > >
> > > > > Diagnosed-by: Maulik Shah <mkshah@codeaurora.org>
> > > > > Suggested-by: Maulik Shah <mkshah@codeaurora.org>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  drivers/base/power/main.c | 6 ++----
> > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/base/power/main.c b/drivers/base/power/main.c
> > > > > index cbea78e79f3d..1c753b651272 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/base/power/main.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/base/power/main.c
> > > > > @@ -747,8 +747,6 @@ void dpm_resume_noirq(pm_message_t state)
> > > > >
> > > > >         resume_device_irqs();
> > > > >         device_wakeup_disarm_wake_irqs();
> > > > > -
> > > > > -       cpuidle_resume();
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > >  /**
> > > > > @@ -870,6 +868,7 @@ void dpm_resume_early(pm_message_t state)
> > > > >         }
> > > > >         mutex_unlock(&dpm_list_mtx);
> > > > >         async_synchronize_full();
> > > > > +       cpuidle_resume();
> > > > >         dpm_show_time(starttime, state, 0, "early");
> > > > >         trace_suspend_resume(TPS("dpm_resume_early"), state.event, false);
> > > > >  }
> > > > > @@ -1336,8 +1335,6 @@ int dpm_suspend_noirq(pm_message_t state)
> > > > >  {
> > > > >         int ret;
> > > > >
> > > > > -       cpuidle_pause();
> > > > > -
> > > > >         device_wakeup_arm_wake_irqs();
> > > > >         suspend_device_irqs();
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -1467,6 +1464,7 @@ int dpm_suspend_late(pm_message_t state)
> > > > >         int error = 0;
> > > > >
> > > > >         trace_suspend_resume(TPS("dpm_suspend_late"), state.event, true);
> > > > > +       cpuidle_pause();
> > > > >         mutex_lock(&dpm_list_mtx);
> > > > >         pm_transition = state;
> > > > >         async_error = 0;
> > > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Well, this is somewhat heavy-handed and it affects even the systems
> > > > that don't really need to pause cpuidle at all in the suspend path.
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree.
> > >
> > > Although, I am not really changing the behaviour in regards to this.
> > > cpuidle_pause() is already being called in dpm_suspend_noirq(), for
> > > everybody today.
> >
> > Yes, it is, but pausing it earlier will cause more energy to be spent,
> > potentially.
> >
> > That said, there are not too many users of suspend_late callbacks in
> > the tree, so it may not matter too much.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Also, IIUC you don't need to pause cpuidle completely, but make it
> > > > temporarily avoid idle states potentially affected by this issue.  An
> > > > additional CPUIDLE_STATE_DISABLED_ flag could be used for that I
> > > > suppose and it could be set via cpuidle_suspend() called from the core
> > > > next to cpufreq_suspend().
> > >
> > > cpuidle_suspend() would then need to go and fetch the cpuidle driver
> > > instance, which in some cases is one driver per CPU. Doesn't that get
> > > rather messy?
> >
> > Per-CPU variables are used for that, so it is quite straightforward.
> >
> > > Additionally, since find_deepest_state() is being called for
> > > cpuidle_enter_s2idle() too, we would need to treat the new
> > > CPUIDLE_STATE_DISABLED_ flag in a special way, right?
> >
> > No, it already checks "disabled".
>
> Yes, but that would be wrong.

Hmmm.

> The use case I want to support, for cpuidle-psci, is to allow all idle
> states in suspend-to-idle,

So does PM-runtime work in suspend-to-idle?  How?

> but prevent those that rely on runtime PM
> (after it has been disabled) for the regular idle path.

Do you have a special suspend-to-idle handling of those states that
doesn't require PM-runtime?

> >
> > > Is this really what we want?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The other guys who rely on the cpuidle pausing today could be switched
> > > > over to this new mechanism later and it would be possible to get rid
> > > > of the pausing from the system suspend path completely.
> > >
> > > Avoiding to pause cpuidle when it's not needed makes perfect sense.
> > > Although, it looks to me that we could also implement that on top of
> > > $subject patch.
> >
> > Yes, it could.
> >
> > > Unless you insist on the CPUIDLE_STATE_DISABLED_ way, I would probably
> > > explore an option to let a cpuidle driver to set a global cpuidle flag
> > > during ->probe(). Depending if this flag is set, we can simply skip
> > > calling cpuidle_pause() during system suspend.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > Well, which driver in particular is in question here?
>
> Honestly, I don't know. It has not been my goal to entirely prevent
> calling cpuidle_pause().
>
> In any case, it was introduced in the below commit, perhaps that can
> give us a hint when this is still needed?
>
> commit 8651f97bd951d0bb1c10fa24e3fa3455193f3548
> Author: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date:   Mon Jul 9 10:12:56 2012 +0200
> PM / cpuidle: System resume hang fix with cpuidle

Yes, I remember that.