Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755230AbXABN12 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:27:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964897AbXABN12 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:27:28 -0500 Received: from nic.NetDirect.CA ([216.16.235.2]:49771 "EHLO rubicon.netdirect.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755230AbXABN11 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:27:27 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 74.109.98.100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:22:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert P. J. Day" X-X-Sender: rpjday@localhost.localdomain To: Theodore Tso cc: Trent Waddington , Bernd Petrovitsch , "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" , Erik Mouw , Giuseppe Bilotta , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) In-Reply-To: <20070102125026.GA4608@thunk.org> Message-ID: References: <4587097D.5070501@opensound.com> <13yc6wkb4m09f$.e9chic96695b.dlg@40tude.net> <200612211816.kBLIGFdf024664@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20061222115921.GT3073@harddisk-recovery.com> <1167568899.3318.39.camel@gimli.at.home> <3d57814d0612310503r282404afgd9b06ca57f44ab3c@mail.gmail.com> <200701020404.l0244n3b024582@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <3d57814d0701012230v2e8b31eeqef7e542d73fc08d9@mail.gmail.com> <1167730833.12526.35.camel@tara.firmix.at> <3d57814d0701020326o2b3b5636mcf31147ad00e82c6@mail.gmail.com> <20070102125026.GA4608@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.8, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-From: rpjday@mindspring.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1491 Lines: 35 On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: > I can very easily believe it. The US patent system and "justice" > system in the US is completely and totally insane, and companies > often feel they have to act accordingly. Remember this is the > country that has issued multi-million dollar awards to people who > spill hot coffee in their lap ... MASSIVELY OFF TOPIC: can we please stop using this "hot coffee in lap" story as an example of the idiocy of the justice system? i'm guessing there's more to this story than most folks are aware of, and you're welcome to read the details here: http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm as you can see, there are two salient points that change the complexion of this story thoroughly: 1) mcdonald's was not merely serving their coffee "hot," but *scalding* hot (180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit), a temperature that will produce third-degree burns almost immediately, and 2) there had, for a decade prior, been some *700* cases where people had burned themselves with mcdonald's coffee, so it's not as if mcdonald's was unaware of the danger, yet continued to ignore it. yes, the american system of justice is brain-damaged. but it's time to find another example to use as the evidence, ok? rday - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/