Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755398AbXABRY3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:24:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755395AbXABRY2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:24:28 -0500 Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.10.23]:35617 "EHLO tmailer.gwdg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755398AbXABRY2 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:24:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:13:46 +0100 (MET) From: Jan Engelhardt To: David Weinehall cc: "Robert P. J. Day" , Theodore Tso , Trent Waddington , Bernd Petrovitsch , "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" , Erik Mouw , Giuseppe Bilotta , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) In-Reply-To: <20070102151503.GA28150@vasa.acc.umu.se> Message-ID: References: <200612211816.kBLIGFdf024664@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20061222115921.GT3073@harddisk-recovery.com> <1167568899.3318.39.camel@gimli.at.home> <3d57814d0612310503r282404afgd9b06ca57f44ab3c@mail.gmail.com> <200701020404.l0244n3b024582@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <3d57814d0701012230v2e8b31eeqef7e542d73fc08d9@mail.gmail.com> <1167730833.12526.35.camel@tara.firmix.at> <3d57814d0701020326o2b3b5636mcf31147ad00e82c6@mail.gmail.com> <20070102125026.GA4608@thunk.org> <20070102151503.GA28150@vasa.acc.umu.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1283855629-1131708715-1167758026=:4001" X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required _SUMMARY_ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1895 Lines: 49 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1283855629-1131708715-1167758026=:4001 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Jan 2 2007 16:15, David Weinehall wrote: >On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 08:22:21AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Theodore Tso wrote: >> >> 1) mcdonald's was not merely serving their coffee "hot," but >> *scalding* hot (180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit), a temperature that >> will produce third-degree burns almost immediately, and > >That's less than 90°C. [1] >Water boils at 100°C. How the hell do >people expect coffee to be made without boiling water? Magic? Boil or not - I've done a test some years ago with some friend arguing about what the best temperature for tea is. Result of an experiment involving actual temperature sensors: my default tea is 40 deg celsius. Theirs was about 60. And to note, drinking 60 deg water already starts to scald my tongue slightly so that it 'itches' for a while. So nothing[1] is unreasonable. >> 2) there had, for a decade prior, been some *700* cases where people >> had burned themselves with mcdonald's coffee, so it's not as if >> mcdonald's was unaware of the danger, yet continued to ignore it. > >No, the customers continued to prove to be total morons by total >ignorance of the fact that coffee *is* hot when fresh. If they >cannot handle hot coffee, they can order ice coffee or ask for a >refill of their cola. Reminds me of http://qdb.us/4753 -`J' -- --1283855629-1131708715-1167758026=:4001-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/