Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752061AbXACAnt (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751949AbXACAnt (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:49 -0500 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:3499 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752061AbXACAns convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:43:48 -0500 From: "David Schwartz" To: , Subject: RE: Open letter to Linux kernel developers (was Re: Binary Drivers) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:43:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <1167781933.2797.69.camel@brianb> X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:46:46 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:46:47 -0800 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1353 Lines: 30 > On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 12:14 -0800, David Schwartz wrote: > > > The recommendet _serving_ temperature for coffe is 55 °C or below. > > > > Nonsense! 55C (100F) is ludicrously low for coffee. > > > > 70C (125F) is the *minimum* recommended serving temperature. > 165-190F is the > > preferred serving range. I can cite source after source for this. For > > example: > > http://www.bunn.com/pages/coffeebasics/cb6holding.html > > http://www.millcreekcoffee.com/holding.htm > > Do you actually read your citations? Your cited sources both give the > SERVING temp as 155 - 175 F. The conversion was incorrect. 70C is about 160F, and 55C is about 130F. As I said in the correction, every number is correct in the unit it was first posted in, and all the claims are correct. 160F is the mininum recommended serving temperature and 165-190F is the preferred range. 130F is a ludicrously low serving temperature for coffee. 180F seems to be about ideal. Stella Liebeck's lawyers argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140F. This is no different from arguing that knives should be dull. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/