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From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To:     Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Improve newidle lb cost tracking and early abort
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Hi,  Vincent, Peter,

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 02:35:32PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> This patchset updates newidle lb cost tracking and early abort:
> 
> The time spent running update_blocked_averages is now accounted in the 1st
> sched_domain level. This time can be significant and move the cost of
> newidle lb above the avg_idle time.
> 
> The decay of max_newidle_lb_cost is modified to start only when the field
> has not been updated for a while. Recent update will not be decayed
> immediatlybut only after a while.
> 
> The condition of an avg_idle lower than sysctl_sched_migration_cost has
> been removed as the 500us value is quite large and prevent opportunity to
> pull task on the newly idle CPU for at least 1st domain levels.

It appears this series is not yet in upstream Linus's tree. What's the latest on it?

I see a lot of times on ARM64 devices that load balance is skipped due to the
high the sysctl_sched_migration_cost. I saw another thread as well where
someone complained the performance varies and the default might be too high:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/9/14/150

Any other thoughts? Happy to help on any progress on this series as well. Thanks,

 - Joel

> 
> Monitoring sd->max_newidle_lb_cost on cpu0 of a Arm64 system
> THX2 (2 nodes * 28 cores * 4 cpus) during the benchmarks gives the
> following results:
>        min    avg   max
> SMT:   1us   33us  273us - this one includes the update of blocked load
> MC:    7us   49us  398us
> NUMA: 10us   45us  158us
> 
> 
> Some results for hackbench -l $LOOPS -g $group :
> group      tip/sched/core     + this patchset
> 1           15.189(+/- 2%)       14.987(+/- 2%)  +1%
> 4            4.336(+/- 3%)        4.322(+/- 5%)  +0%
> 16           3.654(+/- 1%)        2.922(+/- 3%) +20%
> 32           3.209(+/- 1%)        2.919(+/- 3%)  +9%
> 64           2.965(+/- 1%)        2.826(+/- 1%)  +4%
> 128          2.954(+/- 1%)        2.993(+/- 8%)  -1%
> 256          2.951(+/- 1%)        2.894(+/- 1%)  +2%
> 
> tbench and reaim have not shown any difference
> 
> Change since v2:
> - Update and decay of sd->last_decay_max_lb_cost are gathered in
>   update_newidle_cost(). The behavior remains almost the same except that
>   the decay can happen during newidle_balance now.
> 
>   Tests results haven't shown any differences
>   
>   I haven't modified rq->max_idle_balance_cost. It acts as the max value
>   for avg_idle and prevents the latter to reach high value during long
>   idle phase. Moving on an IIR filter instead, could delay the convergence
>   of avg_idle to a reasonnable value that reflect current situation.
> 
> - Added a minor cleanup of newidle_balance
> 
> Change since v1:
> - account the time spent in update_blocked_averages() in the 1st domain
> 
> - reduce number of call of sched_clock_cpu() 
> 
> - change the way max_newidle_lb_cost is decayed. Peter suggested to use a
>   IIR but keeping a track of the current max value gave the best result
> 
> - removed the condition (this_rq->avg_idle < sysctl_sched_migration_cost)
>   as suggested by Peter
> 
> Vincent Guittot (5):
>   sched/fair: Account update_blocked_averages in newidle_balance cost
>   sched/fair: Skip update_blocked_averages if we are defering load
>     balance
>   sched/fair: Wait before decaying max_newidle_lb_cost
>   sched/fair: Remove sysctl_sched_migration_cost condition
>   sched/fair: cleanup newidle_balance
> 
>  include/linux/sched/topology.h |  2 +-
>  kernel/sched/fair.c            | 65 ++++++++++++++++++++++------------
>  kernel/sched/topology.c        |  2 +-
>  3 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.17.1
>