Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965070AbXADSk6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:40:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965071AbXADSk6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:40:58 -0500 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.226]:49534 "EHLO wx-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965070AbXADSk5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:40:57 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index; b=QKZOeLxQN1Q9du+qYgOf7xG1B1+KnsmvNsIlaGtxqfDMYCQKgn1bJSf2Z80SV8uqU2K5LdAdOYGd9E3Bncu1L9J0B48MTE5ps4IyLLHR+RPRozJaBO80b4SH/W0jIpqbv+echER8SPeM97aDaX0zvSQ2uraJ4W1FXtpL4l+lADU= From: "Hua Zhong" To: "'Hugh Dickins'" , "'Bill Davidsen'" Cc: "'Linux-kernel'" Subject: RE: open(O_DIRECT) on a tmpfs? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:41:06 -0800 Message-ID: <003f01c7302f$e72164b0$0200a8c0@nuitysystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 thread-index: AccwI3sQionQVbnzQ3+CSe3iZS2h9AAC59+A Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1721 Lines: 37 > I see that as a good argument _not_ to allow O_DIRECT on > tmpfs, which inevitably impacts cache, even if O_DIRECT were > requested. > > But I'd also expect any app requesting O_DIRECT in that way, > as a caring citizen, to fall back to going without O_DIRECT > when it's not supported. According to "man 2 open" on my system: O_DIRECT Try to minimize cache effects of the I/O to and from this file. In general this will degrade performance, but it is useful in special situations, such as when applications do their own caching. File I/O is done directly to/from user space buffers. The I/O is synchronous, i.e., at the completion of the read(2) or write(2) system call, data is guaranteed to have been trans- ferred. Under Linux 2.4 transfer sizes, and the alignment of user buffer and file offset must all be multiples of the logi- cal block size of the file system. Under Linux 2.6 alignment to 512-byte boundaries suffices. A semantically similar interface for block devices is described in raw(8). This says nothing about (probably disk based) persistent backing store. I don't see why tmpfs has to conflict with it. So I'd argue that it makes more sense to support O_DIRECT on tmpfs as the memory IS the backing store. And EINVAL isn't even a very specific error. Hua - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/