Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:5bc5:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id os5csp6423821pxb; Mon, 8 Nov 2021 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGUA9SV8dmyTfcky8JKAvrxBxSEbWkIxZqkzgAV7hVoo8rHbJh9oaIVEcbu8dRBrIV1NpS X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:d0e:: with SMTP id eb14mr422785edb.59.1636388645167; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1636388645; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=qR2nC16hYsirq9qkHEs+6ePzUoljzObT54hfeVLif/vxvn//jjgRiu5kTDabCVOXw7 h8nLQEgkiF5jl4N6+9RVweG20eSixzNa8Fw/q0HiAeBMx3L9Z63WClI7CFippxtWdJhH PswZBgPNQgao0SVW6VyBH5ppzNJKrTKkOpm/4gg1acroczDIGyYIajO9if4sqiqI9VIQ jTMnmJDCsw2MDL0tS6q+9wi2pgNekiJ/zyfmOIFy7UA5OWs3AFd0H+VJ5sSrWG3bNx2X oRZJmkIhridWAu8q5Knsl2pC2M8BybFScAdKjQL40gKuDV0NAf5eQsJ0yfvhW9g6pBX3 sGBA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:mime-version:message-id:date:references :organization:in-reply-to:subject:to:from; bh=d8IX0aoUWdfar19CVYFR9II2tdrqRQ0D+/SI1E+U6xg=; b=Td5Ux9ILcrHWJyMopuOHg04z4BNdske9blz8MEXirxCd7OMM3xfFDvtG2cl8aJZ/Cr ws63z1kw0y9TEXghpVehVlJtfgHusyGD71wrwnIDbKSewMpe8J49kDoZwGqabBSaCsZI ThSLYLTgEDXJC6H9irXEdt3LfKT5lbfEB0apxZkrhdi4ylppMXAx4P5DEySKAI1xkSpu NA3p880RMCsnADV/R0Bw9+sP7jejUWzSoGTjfj6eEm8DyFZSGo9qy0AebxAZk3CL+CMQ XU3SsEk3T3g0kbOVJmxZXA6gcXZn3Bc0a6tt5t04siT9h7AAjagiQhIMGICCOCyxpEvA MptQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ne13si18296550ejc.63.2021.11.08.08.23.41; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S239749AbhKHNCx (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 8 Nov 2021 08:02:53 -0500 Received: from mga18.intel.com ([134.134.136.126]:35777 "EHLO mga18.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S238770AbhKHNCv (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Nov 2021 08:02:51 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6200,9189,10161"; a="219118356" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.87,218,1631602800"; d="scan'208";a="219118356" Received: from orsmga008.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.65]) by orsmga106.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 Nov 2021 05:00:07 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.87,218,1631602800"; d="scan'208";a="503010130" Received: from mschuett-mobl2.ger.corp.intel.com (HELO localhost) ([10.249.33.194]) by orsmga008-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 Nov 2021 05:00:05 -0800 From: Jani Nikula To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <0b78b74e-5c72-1258-8373-5385d5709a6c@gmx.com> Organization: Intel Finland Oy - BIC 0357606-4 - Westendinkatu 7, 02160 Espoo References: <20210110121033.130504-1-linux@leemhuis.info> <6abc7248-efda-b569-9030-5384e5ce1f29@gmx.com> <87mtme98l6.fsf@intel.com> <0b78b74e-5c72-1258-8373-5385d5709a6c@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 15:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <871r3q950t.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 08 Nov 2021, "Artem S. Tashkinov" wrote: > It does *not* help one bit that we have different bug trackers and > mailing lists for a *single* component which is the kernel. No other > software project under the sun makes the user rack their head trying to > understand how and where to post bug reports. I suppose the kernel is a single component only from a fairly narrow user centric view. Sure, it would be nice, from a user perspective, to have a single bug tracker for everything. But behind the scenes, the kernel development community is so broad and fragmented it's basically impossible to get people to agree on a tracker that would suit everyone and that everyone would use. Furthermore, there are users that insist on reporting bugs on their own terms anyway, refusing to sign up to any trackers. Arguably "the single bug tracker" most users should report their kernel problems for triage first is their distro bug tracker. > Can we shut down bugzilla.kernel.org completely? In its current form > it's nothing but disgrace. Works for me, ymmv. BR, Jani. -- Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center