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From: Ryan Cumming <bodnar42@phalynx.dhs.org>
To: Tommi Kyntola <kynde@ts.ray.fi>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.15-pre6 / EXT3 / ls shows '.journal' on root-fs.
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:28:25 -0800
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On November 19, 2001 17:20, you wrote:
> > > I'm using kernel 2.4.15-pre6 and I can see my journal file
> > > on '/'. Should I worry ?
> >
> > No, apparently the .journal file is visible if you created while the
> > filesystem is mounted, but invisible if you create it when the filesystem
> > is unmounted.
>
> Minor corrections though, atleast on my 2.4.15-pre6 with tune2fs 1.23
> the .journal is visible even when created as unmounted.
That's why I said "apparently", I had only heard that the invisible journal 
was only expected to be created on unmounted filesystems, and I hadn't had an 
oppertunity to test it. Thanks for the info.

> And it is not immutable, the only ext2 file attribute set is the "d"
Not on my system:
bodnar42:/home/bodnar42# rm /.journal
rm: remove write-protected file `/.journal'? y
rm: cannot unlink `/.journal': Operation not permit

That's about as immutable as a file can get, and I'm quite sure I did not set 
it immutable manually.

-Ryan
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