Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161207AbXAHKNy (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Jan 2007 05:13:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161208AbXAHKNy (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Jan 2007 05:13:54 -0500 Received: from mx.laposte.net ([81.255.54.11]:38102 "EHLO mx.laposte.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161207AbXAHKNx (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Jan 2007 05:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <19480.192.54.193.51.1168251206.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:13:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: OT: character encodings (was: Linux 2.6.20-rc4) From: "Nicolas Mailhot" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: "Russell King" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-2.fc6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1204 Lines: 28 > elinks is one such program. It now assumes UTF-8 _only_ displays. > That's no better than programs which assume ISO-8859-1 only or US-ASCII > only. That's way better than programs: - which assume an encoding you can't write most world languages in (BTW ISO-8859-1 & US-ASCII are broken by design for Western Europe since at least the Euro creation) - which perpetuate the myth local 8-bit encodings are manageable (they aren't, people spent decades trying to limp along with them, unicode & UTF-8 where not created just to make your life miserable) Show me one program that spurns Unicode I'll show you one that "passed on" iso-8859-15 (typically, though it's the easiest non-iso-8859-1 to do) The only reason you have the UTF-8 big stick approach nowadays is people have tried for years to get app writers manage 8-bit locales properly to dismal results. The old system was only working for en_US users (and perhaps to .uk people) -- Nicolas Mailhot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/