Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:58:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from [194.65.152.209] ([194.65.152.209]:37000 "EHLO criticalsoftware.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:58:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200111201759.fAKHx9289954@criticalsoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lu=EDs=20Henriques?= To: Anton Altaparmakov Subject: Re: copy to suer space Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:53:24 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011120165440.00a745b0@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> <5.1.0.14.2.20011120173309.0262fd10@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011120173309.0262fd10@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > There is a time window in which it might get paged out in the mean time but > it's admittedly a very small window. But that is irrelevant as copy_to_user > would take care of the page out case by faulting the page back in (that is > at least my understanding of it). > > But that is not the problem I was talking about: Imagine you do > successfully modify the user space code and AFTER THAT the kernel pages out > the code and pages it back in later. Your change is then lost without > trace. > > That can easily crash your program depending on what modifications you do > to it... > > Anton I don't understand... this means that the paging does not save the a code segment in memory? (sorry, this question is being done by a newbie...) When a page is back to memory, what happens? Is read again from the binary file (executable)? Well... I don't think this will have much impact in my module because what it does is: - change the code in a process - return to the process - next time the process is scheduled, the code will be stored again in the CS So, I don't think that the paging will really became a problem as this shall be quiet fast! The idea of changing the code is just to insert a delay in a process, but leaving the process ?burning? CPU time... The point is: I'm not changing the code because of an obscure (to me...) reason. You told me that the code segment may be protected and I'm investigating on that but I would like to be sure that the kernel has no acess to a user CS... -- Lu?s Henriques - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/