Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:42:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:42:37 -0500 Received: from [194.46.8.33] ([194.46.8.33]:62482 "EHLO angusbay.vnl.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:42:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:47:05 +0000 From: Dale Amon To: David Woodhouse Cc: Dale Amon , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: A return to PCI ordering problems... Message-ID: <20011120214705.D22590@vnl.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dale Amon , David Woodhouse , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011120190316.H19738@vnl.com> <2048.1006291657@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2048.1006291657@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: Linux, the choice of a GNU generation Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:27:37PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > Why must the motherboard be set to eth0? Why not just configure it as it > gets detected? There are a couple reasons. One that is specific to this particular case is that the VeryExpensiveProprietaryPackage someone bought checks the eth0 MAC address to be sure you haven't moved it. It would not really be smart to license it against a removable, swappable PCI card. In general: I have more than once gotten bitten late in the night modifying kernels where I switched something from modular to non-modular and lost communication with the machine when it came back up. At 4am these things *do* happen. I'd really not mind the ability to say MAC addresss X is by definition ethY. That would work for me because the only way you get screwed is if you change the NIC. And if you are swapping out hardware, you are usually physically present to sort things out if your network gets effed. > If you really care about the names, there's an ioctl you can use to change > them. You can call them 'fred' and 'sheila' if you so desire. The iproute2 commands another fellow mentioned look like they will do the job nicely for my particular immediate problem. In the more general case though, I can see a need to explicitely force or override assignments in special circumstances. -- ------------------------------------------------------ Nuke bin Laden: Dale Amon, CEO/MD improve the global Islandone Society gene pool. www.islandone.org ------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/