Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F7AC433FE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S242322AbhK2Iv4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Nov 2021 03:51:56 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48886 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S240525AbhK2Its (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Nov 2021 03:49:48 -0500 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEC48C061378; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 00:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sipsolutions.net; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=BcgNBJ9HP80YhdHS2G7Gf7ThE36M72dxztlVKZ+y/iA=; t=1638174905; x=1639384505; b=s9kg7p3UkUuprvBiw0y/Vz0NL+LOtTyi12e0mTory9EubXC x9/iA9iOauQoAemGCSo52IcvhpyIlnO8BouPIq2LoFfHPrfLRvdYHXDukgmqq3bZYXP0CtaMiIzMG jATNTXepzSaGYecpVgii/02jcWr9JaFeDXvd0/c7cBBeX78xqQmTrMZFFDnBSWiX/O7QcNL/s8wL8 jdcvWQaxvg49bI8kR716zVD8sGBvF63HFEC6Ym9YVaE1sRdo+ymMPkdRgovB1HRvD4NOVUxspi1v7 DZlnLC12V5+3g4SxN9QIbdUxncgtKqzI16hQ/QtHwl6i8Ax0lfhUy/WsdrD+oJ+g==; Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1mrc7i-004LRT-Or; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:34:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC v2] mac80211: minstrel_ht: do not set RTS/CTS flag for fallback rates From: Johannes Berg To: Peter Seiderer , Felix Fietkau Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:34:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20211126152558.4d9fbce3@gmx.net> References: <20211116212828.27613-1-ps.report@gmx.net> <20211126152558.4d9fbce3@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.42.1 (3.42.1-1.fc35) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 15:25 +0100, Peter Seiderer wrote: > > > > > If you don't want this behavior, I'm fine with adding a way to > > explicitly disable it. However, I do think leaving it on by default > > makes sense. > > I expected this (as otherwise the flag setting would not be there) ;-) > To be fair, that setting (RTS threshold) has been there for 20 years or more, and comes from a much simpler time when the reasoning for RTS/CTS was mostly about hidden stations, not about protecting the transmissions from older clients that don't understand the newer PHY protocols, etc. johannes