Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:15:29 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:15:18 -0500 Received: from vger.timpanogas.org ([207.109.151.240]:26752 "EHLO vger.timpanogas.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:14:57 -0500 Message-ID: <008001c1725c$1bc5cc70$f5976dcf@nwfs> From: "Jeff Merkey" To: "David S. Miller" Cc: , In-Reply-To: <000601c17259$59316630$f5976dcf@nwfs><20011120.225655.85404918.davem@redhat.com><003401c1725a$975ad4e0$f5976dcf@nwfs> <20011120.230914.00464304.davem@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [VM/MEMORY-SICKNESS] 2.4.15-pre7 kmem_cache_create invalid opcode Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:14:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > Why does this seem illogical to you? Philisophical. Kind of like Linus hating kernel debuggers or something. If someone is building applcations or modules, etc. in a "commerical" software world (I just opened the door to get my head bitten off) where I came from, doing stuff like this was totally forbidden. There's a sort of "shell shocked" conditioning folks get into who have been in software companies like where I came from where anything that makes it difficult for a vendor, partner, developer, etc. to build and maintain code is considered a serious defect. This type of a problem could cause a partner or vendor to spend a lot of time trying to figure out what was wrong. Even more so since the way I stumbled across the problem was building a driver on one system with modversions turned off, then loading the module on a target system and watching it crash -- very annoying and wasteful of time. It's just a philisophical kind of thing. i.e. the tools and code shoudl not have "easter eggs" hidden in it that make it harder to maintain code. :-) Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/