Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CADC433EF for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235880AbhLGLwd (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Dec 2021 06:52:33 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:34994 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231392AbhLGLwc (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Dec 2021 06:52:32 -0500 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [IPv6:2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 462EBC061574; Tue, 7 Dec 2021 03:49:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=80kReiUlwekNbojqIZKz80Q8wRHoH2sdw+ED92mwvfs=; b=aJKv259UGKNYmARmx6J1Mfsp1O l32NaB4CHTd81W2usVx5wD5sqbeFGlQzqdu4fEYj0g1lT1uWMzqf6Bq5Z7sC1B+nrXNO2IEEmMlsU 0RQQhWC3uYYxQW6hSQ91/ftqFS5sViIWZAhjJLM0jmnyl1B8okT4f5YeKio/uJz4TeCOb7K1oTDUZ yhnhlM/vAuNfgb14x1AeMH7Gc1coo4CqjgXuqNeV4WjTxSll+dG+mJupWlOugYTvlvdz6zNy5RB+I agupslukVpNtAgTBBwtiOFjWlELUk2tUPIc/k/L02krNZtSdEnr2QfEQsHnMplMN8qYtMftY97Fl3 q71jRTAg==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:56144) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1muYxt-00066Q-OO; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 11:48:57 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1muYxo-0005IY-Uo; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 11:48:52 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:48:52 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Colin Foster , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Vladimir Oltean , Claudiu Manoil , Alexandre Belloni , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Andrew Lunn , Vivien Didelot , Florian Fainelli , "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 5/5] net: mscc: ocelot: expose ocelot wm functions Message-ID: References: <20211204182858.1052710-1-colin.foster@in-advantage.com> <20211204182858.1052710-6-colin.foster@in-advantage.com> <20211206180922.1efe4e51@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211206180922.1efe4e51@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> Sender: Russell King (Oracle) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 06:09:22PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 10:28:58 -0800 Colin Foster wrote: > > Expose ocelot_wm functions so they can be shared with other drivers. > > > > Signed-off-by: Colin Foster > > Reviewed-by: Vladimir Oltean > > Yeah.. but there are no in-tree users of these. What's the story? > > I see Vladimir reviewed this so presumably we trust that the users > will materialize rather quickly? Thank you for highlighting this. Vladimir told me recently over the phylink get_interfaces vs get_caps change for DSA, and I quote: David who applied your patch can correct me, but my understanding from the little time I've spent on netdev is that dead code isn't a candidate for getting accepted into the tree, even more so in the last few days before the merge window, from where it got into v5.16-rc1. ... So yes, I take issue with that as a matter of principle, I very much expect that a kernel developer of your experience does not set a precedent and a pretext for people who submit various shady stuff to the kernel just to make their downstream life easier. This sounds very much like double-standards, especially as Vladimir reviewed this. I'm not going to be spiteful NAK these patches, because we all need to get along with each other. I realise that it is sometimes useful to get code merged that facilitates or aids further development - provided that development is submitted in a timely manner. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!