Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751535AbXAVPmx (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:42:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751533AbXAVPmx (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:42:53 -0500 Received: from nic.NetDirect.CA ([216.16.235.2]:48725 "EHLO rubicon.netdirect.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751529AbXAVPmx (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:42:53 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 74.109.98.130 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:41:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert P. J. Day" X-X-Sender: rpjday@CPE00045a9c397f-CM001225dbafb6 To: Mike Galbraith cc: Nick Piggin , Nicholas Miell , Linux kernel mailing list , Andrew Morton , linville@tuxdriver.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce simple TRUE and FALSE boolean macros. In-Reply-To: <1169479123.15483.42.camel@Homer.simpson.net> Message-ID: References: <1169401892.2999.1.camel@entropy> <45B495F9.4@yahoo.com.au> <1169479123.15483.42.camel@Homer.simpson.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.8, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-From: rpjday@mindspring.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2126 Lines: 50 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 06:02 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > > > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > > by adding (temporarily) the definitions of TRUE and FALSE to > > > > types.h, you should then (theoretically) be able to delete over > > > > 100 instances of those same macros being *defined* throughout the > > > > source tree. you're not going to be deleting the hundreds and > > > > hundreds of *uses* of TRUE and FALSE (not yet, anyway) but, at the > > > > very least, by adding two lines to types.h, you can delete all > > > > those redundant *definitions* and make sure that nothing breaks. > > > > (it shouldn't, of course, but it's always nice to be sure.) > > > > > > Doesn't seem very worthwhile, and it legitimises this definition > > > we're trying to get rid of. > > > > hmmmmmmmm ... apparently, you totally missed my use of the important > > word "temporarily": > > > > $ grep -r "temporary hack" . | wc -l > > 16 > > That's a pretty good argument _against_ adding another one :) I > wonder how old those "temporary hacks" are (the ones you missed as > well). > > To make TRUE/FALSE go away, you or someone will have to visit them > all, which will take time. Why add an intermediate step where you > or others can end up getting interrupted (indefinitely), leaving the > "temporary" definition lying around for folks to use? as opposed to the 100+ *other* definitions currently cluttering up the tree, which this patch would allow to be deleted *immediately*. forget it. i can see this argument is going nowhere and that, six months from now, some poor sucker is going to post, asking, "hey, you know all these TRUE/FALSE things? wouldn't it be great if we could, you know, clean those up? whaddya say?" and groundhog day will begin all over again ... rday - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/