Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751795AbXAVPx4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:53:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751812AbXAVPx4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:53:56 -0500 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:50087 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751795AbXAVPxz (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:53:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:53:54 -0500 To: Eduard Bloch Cc: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>, Tony Foiani , Leon Woestenberg , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Schwartz Subject: Re: PROBLEM: KB->KiB, MB -> MiB, ... (IEC 60027-2) Message-ID: <20070122155354.GB25916@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <7FsPf-51s-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <7FxlV-3sb-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <7FyUF-5XD-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <20070121111000.GA6679@rotes76.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070121111000.GA6679@rotes76.wohnheim.uni-kl.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2003 Lines: 40 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > And I cannot seriosly believe that you are cappable of reading his > examples. Megabananas are a ridiculous demonstration becase of the > object beeing counted itself, but if you take stuff from real life then > I doubt that you expect a kilometer to be 1024 meters. Same for > kilogram. And a megatone is not 1048576 tones, even not 104857600 kg, > and not 107374182400 grams. Wanna more stupid examples created by > abusing decimal units? The computer world has a long history of borrowing and abusing terms. Probably the majority of computer terms came to be that way. Why should we change any of them now? Should we stop calling it booting because some people might be confused and think it means kicking the computer? Should we rename threads because people might think it has something to do with sewing stuff together? > You talk for everybody, or is it just your (and only your) mind refusing > to accept new terms? For my taste, kib and mib are even easier to > speech, easier than {KiLoBytE} resp. {MeGaBytE} or KaaaBe / eMmmBe. There is too much legacy code and systems around for it to ever be nonambiguous. It is too late to fix it, and the units that this "standard" came up with just sound too stupid to be taken seriously. You also don't pronounce units just because it looks like you can. So KiB is not easier than KB. Heck most people in speach wouild just call them Ks (kays or something like that). And MBs just become Megs. Same for Gigs. Whoever wasted their time coming up with this standard, well they simply wasted their time. It will NEVER catch on, and it will never replace the common usage. It's about 50 or 60 years to late for that. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/