Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752627AbXA2XEQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:04:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752626AbXA2XEQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:04:16 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.24]:60886 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752627AbXA2XEP (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:04:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Stephen Hemminger cc: Thomas Gleixner , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jeff Garzik Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage In-Reply-To: <20070129144055.151cfe52@freekitty> Message-ID: References: <1169931333.17469.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070129113159.7ad22e4c@freekitty> <1170101430.29240.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070129133849.1b523226@freekitty> <1170109401.29240.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070129144055.151cfe52@freekitty> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1012 Lines: 28 On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > MSI works fine for almost all systems (except AMD systems where > MSI is broken for ALL devices). Why do you ignore reality? MSI does *not* work fine, exactly because the firmware screws it up. The fact that on a "hardware level" it may work is totally irrelevant. The *only* thing that matters is what people actually see. "Positivism" may not be a hot philosophy these days any more, but dang, it certainly is better than what you seem to espouse: "in theory things work fine". And if you don't like positivism, how about just simple scientific method: a theory is *proven*wrong* by a single observation to the opposite. And we have several people standing up saying that your theory is wrong. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/