Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751909AbXA3Wlf (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:41:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751927AbXA3Wlf (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:41:35 -0500 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:51222 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751909AbXA3Wle (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:41:34 -0500 Message-ID: <45BFC99A.8040805@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:41:30 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061219) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trent Waddington CC: Dave Airlie , Roland Dreier , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! References: <20070130012904.GA9617@kroah.com> <20070130191020.GF20642@kroah.com> <45BFA087.6020905@garzik.org> <20070130214759.GA12477@kroah.com> <21d7e9970701301414s251b584mbee85ecd6909febf@mail.gmail.com> <3d57814d0701301424m67d22cdbg7afc0a1dab29c152@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3d57814d0701301424m67d22cdbg7afc0a1dab29c152@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.7 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1274 Lines: 27 Trent Waddington wrote: > All this sounds like a lack of organisation on the side of the > community to me. Greg saying that he and others are twiddling their > thumbs because they don't know what hardware needs drivers says that > too. Where is the list of hardware-without-drivers? Until recently > there hasn't even been a list of hardware-with-binary-only-drivers > [1]. So anyone who has the necessary skills and thinks gee, I might > have a go at writing a linux kernel driver, has no idea where to go or > what to do. I wonder how many vendors have a policy of just ignoring > emails from hackers asking for specifications because they have > already given the specifications to Redhat or someone else, but > hackers just keep asking them again and again. I think this is a quite fair criticism, and I would love to see someone step up and help with this sort of organization. For example, I didn't know that XGI graphics specs were available at all, otherwise it might have been something fun to tackle. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/