Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751980AbXA3XBZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:01:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752002AbXA3XBZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:01:25 -0500 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:51393 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751980AbXA3XBZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: <45BFCE41.6020500@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:01:21 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061219) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Dreier CC: Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! References: <20070130012904.GA9617@kroah.com> <20070130191020.GF20642@kroah.com> <45BFA087.6020905@garzik.org> <45BFC1DA.7040807@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.7 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1407 Lines: 34 Roland Dreier wrote: > I thought you wrote tg3 without docs and without help from Broadcom? We had docs and Broadcom's GPL'd driver. > To repeat, my point is that the drivers used most by users of > enterprise distros will get written with or without vendor docs or > help. Drivers for hardware that only a few people care about probably > won't be written and definitely won't be maintained by volunteers even > if the vendor publishes docs. And I think that's pretty much what I > said in both of the paragraphs you quoted above. You're changing your story. After first over-simplifying what Greg posted, you were complaining about Greg being disingenuous, when in fact Greg was doing nothing but describing (in a new and different way) how Linux drivers are already written. Furthermore, presuming that drivers "definitely won't be maintained by volunteers" is rather presumptuous considering that volunteers are lining up, according to Greg. I'm glad I didn't have a negative nelly like you around when I first got into fbdev driver hacking, my entry into the Linux kernel world. "Don't bother, son, nobody wants you around anyway." Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/