Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751837AbXA3XqE (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:46:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751841AbXA3XqD (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:46:03 -0500 Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.230]:36782 "EHLO hu-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751837AbXA3XqB (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:46:01 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CirzUxngOAF1isLraBZwtqS0xNUbfRg7qyy5dJYoMqXyz8q86gnOFykazxuvCb2relIyf6S3gKuyhzqDMeBwhC4OmgLTCxw9wSqdroCuf+ZlRLkzbm/eQm/bffi7+aWQ/eNdRx90U9KJJFygTaTOojBndZIqadbG3cVTHMbSh7k= Message-ID: <1a297b360701301545o2608edf5i618b9ff26bf1b4a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:45:59 +0400 From: "Manu Abraham" To: "Roland Dreier" Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! Cc: "Jeff Garzik" , "Greg KH" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070130012904.GA9617@kroah.com> <20070130191020.GF20642@kroah.com> <20070130195445.GE22022@kroah.com> <45BFC7F2.7090209@garzik.org> <45BFD03F.4020003@garzik.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1400 Lines: 32 On 1/31/07, Roland Dreier wrote: > To me, it's clear that historically the community hasn't delivered on > this. So I don't like promising something that we haven't been able > to follow through on in the past. If a vendor takes Greg's offer, and > then the community, for whatever reason, fails to deliver on > everything, then that makes us all (including me!) look bad just > because of Greg's hyperbolic promises. I can't talk for every subsystem, but what we have under the DVB subsystem, for the devices that we have access to specs we have well behaved drivers, many have even complimented that they work much better than their windows counterparts. I have even received mails from some vendors that some of the Linux drivers behave better than their own windows drivers. We can't count on reverse eng 'd drivers (or even drivers written with a lot of guess work due to lack of specifications), they don't behave nice. So at least if the vendors were to provide some specs in that direction, it would help to make those drivers better. So i think to a certain as to what i can say, probably you are wrong. regards, manu - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/