Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752157AbXAaAwR (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:52:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752158AbXAaAwR (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:52:17 -0500 Received: from ausc60ps301.us.dell.com ([143.166.148.206]:17187 "EHLO ausc60ps301.us.dell.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752157AbXAaAwQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:52:16 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: s=smtpout; d=dell.com; c=nofws; q=dns; b=TB2Bw48HbDPZhEDna53mhJWDpfq31t1bBrMbr8e8lCKQJkHq6ZtGVaLVThO5KWpCUuJR7OgHYriIO1wB9Sn9vmhGrtcIiygyxJLTnMYzQ0EXvapmp/mZ7V1hOrEjn5EZ; X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,259,1167631200"; d="scan'208"; a="178002225:sNHT17333829" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:52:18 -0600 From: Matt Domsch To: Randy Dunlap Cc: Jes Sorensen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ksummit-2007-discuss@thunk.org, James Bottomley , alan@redhat.com, David Miller , Sunil Naidu Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Message-ID: <20070131005218.GB30457@lists.us.dell.com> References: <20070125.125121.98861775.davem@davemloft.net> <8355959a0701251646t4b7db48cj862268aad52e8e24@mail.gmail.com> <20070126032849.GB5589@thunk.org> <8355959a0701260704x6aea8141s3d0581fa33c74cf2@mail.gmail.com> <20070126195024.GE14759@thunk.org> <45BE8BF9.6020204@sgi.com> <1170118042.3378.45.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <45BEF0C5.7090401@sgi.com> <20070130083025.1332a6ea.rdunlap@xenotime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070130083025.1332a6ea.rdunlap@xenotime.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1794 Lines: 40 On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:30:25AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:16:21 +0100 Jes Sorensen wrote: > > > James Bottomley wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 01:06 +0100, Jes Sorensen wrote: > > >> The last couple of years there's been roughly 13 seats sold to sponsors, > > >> which is somewhere in the order or 15%. Even if we assume that say 50% > > >> of those seats have been given to relevant participants, thats still a > > >> lot of waste. > > > > > > The sad fact is that putting on a summit costs money. If the attendees > > > themselves don't pay then it has to come from somewhere. The current > > > funding mechanism is open for discussion, like the agenda ... what did > > > you have in mind? > > > > I don't have an issue with the fact there are sponsors, however I think > > KS is important enough and sponsors are aware of this, that selling > > seats to sponsors shouldn't be necessary. As one who regularly fills a sponsor slot (though I have also gotten an invitation on merit in the past), I don't believe the sponsor slot people detract from the sessions. Most of the time we keep quiet, occasionally offering our insights or challenges. Jonathan's writeups are fantastic, but it doesn't really compare with being there and participating in discussions, either hallway or main room. Besides consuming oxygen, what's the real concern here? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/