Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:00:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:00:49 -0500 Received: from c0mailgw.prontomail.com ([216.163.180.10]:8651 "EHLO c0mailgw09.prontomail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:00:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3BFD3C37.7C5BCCC4@starband.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:56:07 -0500 From: war X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James A Sutherland , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Swap vs No Swap. In-Reply-To: <3BFC5A9B.915B77DF@starband.net> <3BFD2997.95F2B9EE@starband.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is incorrect. SWAP is used on a [1GB ram/2GB swap system]. I talked to Rik about this. He said generally SWAP is a good thing and increases performance. However, in my case it does not. Nov 22 12:18:41 riel: For a single user system. Nov 22 12:18:43 war: what are you trying to do ? Nov 22 12:18:44 war: it all depends on what you use the computer for Nov 22 12:18:56 war: that's a very important thing to specify ;) Nov 22 12:18:57 General X apps, staroffice/netscape/media stuff(aviplay)/etc Nov 22 12:19:06 compiling apps once and awhile Nov 22 12:19:13 war: ok, in that case you omost likely don't need swap Nov 22 12:19:32 war: but you really _need_ to tell what you are using the computer for before anybody can give a sensible answer ;) Nov 22 12:19:43 riel: thats what I thought too, yet people still say I do even after I told them what I was using it for Nov 22 12:19:52 learath: nope 1gb will still win just one app will loose and die Nov 22 12:19:54 riel: I sent the list of my ps auxww (512 processes) and I still had 350MB left over. Nov 22 12:20:05 war: yup, I saw that James A Sutherland wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2001 4:36 pm, war wrote: > > The bottom line here is: > > > > There is no need for swap if you have enough ram. > > Using swap with more than enough ram does absolutley nothing for the > > system, except by degrading the performance of it. > > If the system has so much RAM that EVERYTHING fits in RAM - programs, data > and FS cache - then the swap won't be touched anyway, and makes no > difference. This is rather unlikely on a PC; in practice, adding swap should > always improve matters. (Of course, the VM isn't perfect yet...) > > James. > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/