Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAB1C433F5 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S238842AbiAFMcU (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jan 2022 07:32:20 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58772 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S238780AbiAFMcR (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Jan 2022 07:32:17 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-x102f.google.com (mail-pj1-x102f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102f]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ECDBC061201 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 04:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102f.google.com with SMTP id y16-20020a17090a6c9000b001b13ffaa625so8315460pjj.2 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 04:32:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudflare.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LbbHJnfFJa635LNHtwNypapWioSFVlnQx2kyNjrWm4E=; b=KYqP0kcBUcSvlLhrut8dRrSJSxD8FmuH7R45O2CUoeGPv2NiyDA0WaiIOCpAN7+wVL VMe0E5jd2sZ8I9+hvCFk+c4r4iXK5hDPdy3J7kO5xODJSdROF2rBeTJMOUUsOYqHZa3a 8zK+IYr2XjfyO50kZiuVc3i2WwdkMMGsWZLJY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LbbHJnfFJa635LNHtwNypapWioSFVlnQx2kyNjrWm4E=; b=KptC+s+hJGCZxmwdZy40VCm38boo3kWOaG0Ap8FX9DnB2JdS7CLeZOuPqGYF24UYy2 9rEvjarE7KACTM9WaEAClaMWakph3wS0D6BNgxeTvGOwtdR+r1Czrl8/DkMXhVBFaZ9m ASzif12KPyGDnmWmIVCERtO6rld6S1neB8FY1lG5uFgvb3G7fBJTQPf+4BSplttak3ad G0+SwdTUmatmqa9bg4qU16nYKuKO67pQYSCEJM46hv59shT0+k9BPBP6pqGmd7JCTPEa O7lPIGJIoOuKDYJRe7stY1nxdmRR8sjjR5uQv9W+NJfG+sYllLHL7qwkiAcMwzSUrcif u3yg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tQSNioHOoqLqGa8c6RiPu4bM9j8hZSeSK1fWORD4/jFpP1vdq dr7rn++1GA8xj2+c6DzFhMxHcD1QVKv2XrPbQOQz7Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzpBs//uHxEy1Y6b9A1PBKSNp3traSjdndLPLblh1LSQ2ada4lXL+T31sAFhrndnbnvRzwLzHK/3C1CVCMiBcE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7e81:: with SMTP id j1mr6817950pjl.14.1641472336853; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 04:32:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Dao Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:32:06 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expensive tcp_collapse with high tcp_rmem limit To: Eric Dumazet Cc: netdev , kernel-team , linux-kernel , David Miller , Jakub Kicinski , Hideaki YOSHIFUJI , Marek Majkowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:38 PM Eric Dumazet wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 4:15 AM Daniel Dao wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > We are looking at increasing the maximum value of TCP receive buffer in order > > to take better advantage of high BDP links. For historical reasons ( > > https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-story-of-one-latency-spike/), this was set to > > a lower than default value. > > > > We are still occasionally seeing long time spent in tcp_collapse, and the time > > seems to be proportional with max rmem. For example, with net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 8192 2097152 16777216, > > we observe tcp_collapse latency with the following bpftrace command: > > > > I suggest you add more traces, like the payload/truesize ratio when > these events happen. > and tp->rcv_ssthresh, sk->sk_rcvbuf > > TCP stack by default assumes a conservative [1] payload/truesize ratio of 50% I forgot to add that for this experiment we also set tcp_adv_win_scale = -2 to see if it reduces the chance of triggering tcp_collapse > > Meaning that a 16MB sk->rcvbuf would translate to a TCP RWIN of 8MB. > > I suspect that you use XDP, and standard MTU=1500. > Drivers in XDP mode use one page (4096 bytes on x86) per incoming frame. > In this case, the ratio is ~1428/4096 = 35% > > This is one of the reason we switched to a 4K MTU at Google, because we > have an effective ratio close to 100% (even if XDP was used) > > [1] The 50% ratio of TCP is defeated with small MSS, and malicious traffic. I updated the bpftrace script to get data on len/truesize on collapsed skb kprobe:tcp_collapse { $sk = (struct sock *) arg0; $tp = (struct tcp_sock *) arg0; printf("tid %d: rmem_alloc=%ld sk_rcvbuf=%ld rcv_ssthresh=%ld\n", tid, $sk->sk_backlog.rmem_alloc.counter, $sk->sk_rcvbuf, $tp->rcv_ssthresh); printf("tid %d: advmss=%ld wclamp=%ld rcv_wnd=%ld\n", tid, $tp->advmss, $tp->window_clamp, $tp->rcv_wnd); @start[tid] = nsecs; } kretprobe:tcp_collapse /@start[tid] != 0/ { $us = (nsecs - @start[tid])/1000; @us = hist($us); printf("tid %d: %ld us\n", tid, $us); delete(@start[tid]); } kprobe:tcp_collapse_one { $skb = (struct sk_buff *) arg1; printf("tid %d: s=%ld len=%ld truesize=%ld\n", tid, sizeof(struct sk_buff), $skb->len, $skb->truesize); } interval:s:6000 { exit(); } Here is the output: tid 0: rmem_alloc=16780416 sk_rcvbuf=16777216 rcv_ssthresh=2920 tid 0: advmss=1460 wclamp=4194304 rcv_wnd=450560 tid 0: len=3316 truesize=15808 tid 0: len=4106 truesize=16640 tid 0: len=3967 truesize=16512 tid 0: len=2988 truesize=15488 ... tid 0: len=5279 truesize=17664 tid 0: len=425 truesize=2048 tid 0: 17176 us The skb looks indeed bloated (len=3316, truesize=15808), so collapsing definitely helps. It just took a long time to go through thousands of 16KB skb > > > > bpftrace -e 'kprobe:tcp_collapse { @start[tid] = nsecs; } kretprobe:tcp_collapse /@start[tid] != 0/ { $us = (nsecs - @start[tid])/1000; @us = hist($us); delete(@start[tid]); printf("%ld us\n", $us);} interval:s:6000 { exit(); }' > > Attaching 3 probes... > > 15496 us > > 14301 us > > 12248 us > > @us: > > [8K, 16K) 3 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@| > > > > Spending up to 16ms with 16MiB maximum receive buffer seems high. Are there any > > recommendations on possible approaches to reduce the tcp_collapse latency ? > > Would clamping the duration of a tcp_collapse call be reasonable, since we only > > need to spend enough time to free space to queue the required skb ? > > It depends if the incoming skb is queued in in-order queue or > out-of-order queue. > For out-of-orders, we have a strategy in tcp_prune_ofo_queue() which > should work reasonably well after commit > 72cd43ba64fc17 tcp: free batches of packets in tcp_prune_ofo_queue() > > Given the nature of tcp_collapse(), limiting it to even 1ms of processing time > would still allow for malicious traffic to hurt you quite a lot. I don't yet understand why we have cases of bloated skbs. But it seems like adapting the batch prune strategy in tcp_prune_ofo_queue() to tcp_collapse makes sense to me. I think every collapsed skb saves us truesize - len (?), and we can set goal to free up 12.5% of sk_rcvbuf same as tcp_prune_ofo_queue()